Thanks for the Info and run down. Sometimes its nice to hear whats going on from someone else's shoes. Looks like more home work on the AMFA. Have a good one My Union Brother. ps Some on here just want to spin BS and half truths to shape things to what they want it to look like but if you dig deep enough you can always find the true facts.lol B)
You said: So can you the same about any IBT represented heavy mtc? Nope you cant cause they farm it all out.) YOU Lie. THE TRUE FACT: At AWA Before the IBT was voted in at HP (AWA) The Company did a MASS layoff of over 500 AMTs and related as we know it as( BLACK FRIDAY) and SHUTDOWN the back shops and C & B-Check Lines outsourced the whole HMV. After this the IBT was voted in. You said
HP AMT's NEVER made more in pay than US, why do you keep lying again?) YOU Lie. THE TRUE FACT: AWA AMT's base pay was a little higher than USAir AMT's and as you said So the IAM crappiest bankruptcy CBA is still better than the former hp cba.) After the merger AWA AMT's lost our sick time full pay and 2 holidays also our insurance is 3 times higher. After the merger the Transition Agreement gave both AWA AND USAir AMT's a small pay increase but at a lost of benefits from the AWA AMT's. FACT.....This whole thing looks the same as it did with the AWA and USAir merger, At that time the IBT CBA was in sec 6 Negotiations and the company was talking to the IAM at USAir and stalling the contract till the merger. Now the shoe is on the other foot the IAM is in sec 6 negotiations and the company is stalling and is talking to the UNIONS at AA. 700 I have been here before AWA was the smaller union than USAir and this time USAir is the smaller union to AA so they will control what union will be in place at the next Transition Agreement. I would like to see the AMT's have a union for them only as the Pilots and Flight Attendants have. The ramp has held the AMT's back long enough we have pulled them up and now it time for them to let go of our shirt tails and I think that's what the AA AMT's are looking to do and why they want a new union IBT or AMFA. Have a good one my little iam brain washed union brother. B) You're leaving out premiums, that's all included in top pay
I had US at $23.29 base rate and HP at $23.35 on my old notes. I was looking for that old BK CBA I had. But if you have the BK contract and say it was $23.69 that’s ok with me. My Bad 700. As it is we have had no NEW contract from 2004-2013 9 yrs. And only if you count as 700 said: IAM crappiest bankruptcy CBA that was used to make a Transition Agreement and is amendable at this time. The IBT CBA was amendable last merger and the company stalled till the unions were in place. And they will do the same this time. AA AMT’s will say what Union will be in place. Need to do some Homework on AMFA and find the pay scale swa TOP OUT with Lic. /Shift. Have a good one my UNION BROTHERS.
