Looks like pilot error?

[corl737]

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/Busine...5121502153.html

From the article cited above ...

"'If the crew had deployed [the reversers] immediately or had they been successful . . . it certainly wouldn't have killed the kid and it might even have kept the plane on the runway,' said Richard Healing, a former NTSB member."


Hmmmm. Extrapolating an "if..." to a "then certainly ...". Doesn't sound like the behavior of a professional accident investigator. Perhaps Mr. Healing is attempting to wiggle his way onto the defense attorney's short list of "paid expert witnesses"?

 

[jimntx]

nothing like kicking someone when they are down. get some class.

Just returning the favor of the SWA employees and customers who insist on portraying my airline as the evil empire. You're welcome.

 

[mga707]

A very poorly written article--but only someone with an aviation background and knowledge of Midway and 737's would realize. Pretty much just a PR piece for the lawyers. Still, an accident--though this trash piece does little to put it into actual perspective.

Agree. Although I would expect that a local (Chicago Tribune) reporter should be smart enough to realize that one cannot simply plop down an aircraft at the "edge" of that 6500-foot runway--unless one plans to take out the White Castle at the northwest corner of 63rd and Cicero in the process!
Lazy reporting.

 

[KCFlyer]

Just returning the favor of the SWA employees and customers who insist on portraying my airline as the evil empire. You're welcome.

Sorry JIm...but I don't recall reading any posts from Southwest employees portraying your airline as the evil empire when 587 went down....

 

[Atlantic]

Usually first information is wrong. Let's wait for the NTSB.

 

[mrfish3726]

? here didn't the guys who pulled into the Phillips 66 in Burbank get canned?

 

[Flufdriver]

? here didn't the guys who pulled into the Phillips 66 in Burbank get canned?

...not to mention the guys flying naked a few years ago! Slogan should be..."Your free to move about the Clearway!"

 

[Fly]

are you kidding me?!? If they'd all do that, I'd love my job even more. (ok not ALL, but most)

 

[corl737]

? here didn't the guys who pulled into the Phillips 66 in Burbank get canned?

If you want to make idiotic comments at least you can get your information correct. It was a Chevron, not a Phillips 66.

Reference photo here: http://image02.webshots.com/2/0/79/43/44907943vlDRju_ph.jpg

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

From every "official" thing (NTSB reports, crew statements) that I've read, up to date, perhaps the Captains inability to deploy the thrust reversers, AND the FO ability to deploy the Thrust reversers, may become a point of much scrutiny.

I'm not going to say(at this point) that if the Captain WAS able to deploy TR's on his first attempt, that this accident would not have occured !!

NH/BB's

 

[N924PS]

Just as a point of information: Transport category aircraft stopping distance performance is not predicated on the use of reverse thrust.

 

[star power]

Just as a point of information: Transport category aircraft stopping distance performance is not predicated on the use of reverse thrust.

Your correct, because the T/Rs can be MEL and the brakes can not, but the mfg. do the testing to get the a/c cert. You can not land at LGA with a T/R MEL above a a/c weight of 70,000 lbs.

 

[etops1]

why doesen't wn use auto brakes? from what i understand , every other airline does. sounds pretty dangerous to me not to use auto brakes.

 

[star power]

why doesen't wn use auto brakes? from what i understand , every other airline does. sounds pretty dangerous to me not to use auto brakes.

-200,did not have autobrakes with the Mark IIIA anti-skid, so no training need. the -300 it was a customers option for the Mark IV, no training and no cost for the no options, the early -400 were the same as the -300. the last -400 [line no# ( unk )] and the-500/600 have the Mark IV are std equipment, certified. the first little training, this is the autobrake switch, you can select RTO, OFF, 1, 2, 3, and it will applied the brake automaticlly, second. maintenance pull C/B and collard/band C/B, Deact. after Chevron. the -700/800/900 have the Mark IV A as the std equipment, certified. On the -400/500/600 the autobrake C/B was Re-Act. after the -600/700 came on line. little training, this is the autobrake switch. low cost. SWA does not have -500 or the -800/900 to big a/c, and the -200 gone.

 

[corl737]

sounds pretty dangerous to me not to use auto brakes.

Sorry for the sarcastic reply to your message but this was aching to get out ....

My God! You're a genius! You have personally discovered the holy grail that will stop the 3000+ SWA flights from running off runways all over the country every day!

I wonder if any of the airline flights you've taken as a passenger were on aircraft that had inoperative autobrake systems? Bet the airline didn't cancel their flight just because you deemed the operation to be "pretty dangerous"!