JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

Corporate greed just gets deeper when companies make more money. Its twisted but thats why we gotta fight. These arsehats want our health care. Dont ever trust management.

There are asshats after your Medical expenditures percentage contribution? Where? Where are these bloomin asshats? What else do you know for a fact that the asshats want?

Did Jerry already tell you Tim? C’mon what does Jerry really want man? You can tell us.

 

[737823]

Tim are you sure about AUS and ATL being on the verge of being contracted out? By my numbers even just LAA mainline they’re well above water.

AUS (LAA TWU)
ATL (LAA TWU & LUS IAM)
SJU (LAA TWU)
STL (LAA TWU)
TPA (LAA TWU & LUS IAM)

Also why did you remove your IAMNPF and DL 141 videos from early 2016? I saw the lottery one you uploaded recently.

And aren’t there other cases of family members getting high paying jobs beyond current and former executive council members? Like children and relatives of GLRs, special representatives, etc?

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

hopefully that;; be in the new JCBA since DP stated to the news this airline will never lose money again it cld very be they don't lose money that's a bold statement but its definitely one the Association needs to capitalize on during the scope enhancements if they have not already done so I thought though its technically is not the negotiators themselves but the executive though the assoc team are there at least that's my understanding

 

[WeAAsles]

hopefully that;; be in the new JCBA since DP stated to the news this airline will never lose money again it cld very be they don't lose money that's a bold statement but its definitely one the Association needs to capitalize on during the scope enhancements if they have not already done so I thought though its technically is not the negotiators themselves but the executive though the assoc team are there at least that's my understanding

Well again even though Tim likes to say otherwise no, it’s a load of BS that nothing is being run back to our Presidents and AGC’s. Making a comment like that comes off as if the TWU and IAM Leadership just piss on the guys that did the majority of the work and set the template for the rest. Sorry I don’t buy into any of that BS.

CB and Rez have both stated and shouldn’t have to repeat themselves that they get briefings and aren’t intending to bend over if they’re not happy with the outcome of the finished product and I believe them.

I don’t believe Tim, Robbed because we catch him with BS over and over and over all the time. But he’ll be here to try to sell it again as usual. It’s what he does and he can’t do anything else.

 

[737823]

Well again even though Tim likes to say otherwise no, it’s a load of BS that nothing is being run back to our Presidents and AGC’s. Making a comment like that comes off as if the TWU and IAM Leadership just piss on the guys that did the majority of the work and set the template for the rest. Sorry I don’t buy into any of that BS.

CB and Rez have both stated and shouldn’t have to repeat themselves that they get briefings and aren’t intending to bend over if they’re not happy with the outcome of the finished product and I believe them.

I don’t believe Tim, Robbed because we catch him with BS over and over and over all the time. But he’ll be here to try to sell it again as usual. It’s what he does and he can’t do anything else.

Weez how would you know any of this? Tim has had far more success running for union positions than yourself!

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim are you sure about AUS and ATL being on the verge of being contracted out? By my numbers even just LAA mainline they’re well above water.

AUS (LAA TWU)
ATL (LAA TWU & LUS IAM)
SJU (LAA TWU)
STL (LAA TWU)
TPA (LAA TWU & LUS IAM)

Also why did you remove your IAMNPF and DL 141 videos from early 2016? I saw the lottery one you uploaded recently.

And aren’t there other cases of family members getting high paying jobs beyond current and former executive council members? Like children and relatives of GLRs, special representatives, etc?

Josh

I have a pension video that is still up that is called "IAM Pension Health". Let me know if you can't find it. I don't remember any other videos I posted on the IAM Pension but I'll double check. Not sure what DL141 videos you were referring to.

I'm not sure of any other relatives. I just went with the sons and daughters that I know about. If you know of any other relatives then I would really really love that information. Especially of Special reps and GLR's as well. You have my cell number.

About the TWU stations, so I think it was posted by NYer which stations may be treading water, i.e., I think it was TPA, SJU, ATL, and another. 4 stations. Not sure if the company will be a prick and interpret that language to exclude LUS, since there isn't any LUS metal anymore, right? Unless the pilots or stews haven't blended in their seniority??? I

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez how would you know any of this? Tim has had far more success running for union positions than yourself!

Josh

Although irrelevant to the conversation. Tim gets appointed to things. He’s been appointed all over the place and then removed from those appointments 47 times now. 47 times.

Tim serves a purpose IMO but we also have to point out that the man is kind of nuts. Should we encourage his behavior, and if we do what does that say about us?

 

[NYer]

About the TWU stations, so I think it was posted by NYer which stations may be treading water, i.e., I think it was TPA, SJU, ATL, and another. 4 stations. Not sure if the company will be a prick and interpret that language to exclude LUS, since there isn't any LUS metal anymore, right? Unless the pilots or stews haven't blended in their seniority??? I

Until there is a JCBA the metal count is separate as it concerns the Scope language.

 

[737823]

NYer,
By my count from Diio (airline schedule database) the troubled stations are SAT, STL and SJU.

SAT and STL with S80 retirements being replaced by Eagle, SJU being the economic downturn on the island and the company’s diminishing relevance and role as a market leader there (like so much else B6 has taken that).

I remember 3x AB6 daily to BOS, now nothing. It dwindled down to 757s and then finally a single 738 at the end, but a decade ago if you told someone AA wouldn’t be flying BOS-SJU (and JFK for that matter) they’d tell you to have your head examined.

Josh

 

[conehead777]

Although irrelevant to the conversation. Tim gets appointed to things. He’s been appointed all over the place and then removed from those appointments 47 times now. 47 times.

Tim serves a purpose IMO but we also have to point out that the man is kind of nuts. Should we encourage his behavior, and if we do what does that say about us?

Well he has been in more then you have maybe they let him go because he was right and they didn’t want him there to make waves. You on the other hand lost your race you got crushed. Your jealous of Tim. He did know we were getting the pay raise in 2016. Your just a small puppy with your nose in everything

 

[NYer]

NYer,
By my count from Diio (airline schedule database) the troubled stations are SAT, STL and SJU.

SAT and STL with S80 retirements being replaced by Eagle, SJU being the economic downturn on the island and the company’s diminishing relevance and role as a market leader there (like so much else B6 has taken that).

I remember 3x AB6 daily to BOS, now nothing. It dwindled down to 757s and then finally a single 738 at the end, but a decade ago if you told someone AA wouldn’t be flying BOS-SJU (and JFK for that matter) they’d tell you to have your head examined.

Josh

At the last look back the annual flight numbers are as follows, with 5475 annual departures being the cut off:

SAT 4341
SJU 4361
TPA 5138
ATL 5274
STL 5532

Current language protects those stations under the pre-BK threshold of 2555. That protection disappears on September 12, 2018.

 

[robbedagain]

Well again even though Tim likes to say otherwise no, it’s a load of BS that nothing is being run back to our Presidents and AGC’s. Making a comment like that comes off as if the TWU and IAM Leadership just piss on the guys that did the majority of the work and set the template for the rest. Sorry I don’t buy into any of that BS.

CB and Rez have both stated and shouldn’t have to repeat themselves that they get briefings and aren’t intending to bend over if they’re not happy with the outcome of the finished product and I believe them.

I don’t believe Tim, Robbed because we catch him with BS over and over and over all the time. But he’ll be here to try to sell it again as usual. It’s what he does and he can’t do anything else.

Didn't CB or Rez state on here that theyre being kept up to date by the Executive team as the negos drag on. Sorry if my comment sounded like that I just think and hope that given DP statement about the airline never losing money again that the leadership grandfather in all current cities and enhance the LUS scope for all

 

[WeAAsles]

Well he has been in more then you have maybe they let him go because he was right and they didn’t want him there to make waves. You on the other hand lost your race you got crushed. Your jealous of Tim. He did know we were getting the pay raise in 2016. Your just a small puppy with your nose in everything

Are you looking to be in an intimate relationship with Tim or something? I don’t think he swings that way Conehead but hey you can always send him a PM and ask I guess.

And I actually found out about the pay raise from a guy on my Ramp named Diego Pareja. Not Tim.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Didn't CB or Rez state on here that theyre being kept up to date by the Executive team as the negos drag on. Sorry if my comment sounded like that I just think and hope that given DP statement about the airline never losing money again that the leadership grandfather in all current cities and enhance the LUS scope for all

How would the words “enhance” and “grandfather” fit in the same sentence from DP saying “never losing money again”.

 

[robbedagain]

ok DP says the airline will never lose money again.... Leardership at the Executive and Negoiations Team for the Assoc should tell DP and gang to enhance the scope by using the LUS scope and improving on it and grandfathering in all current mainline city and improve all aspects of the scope