JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Albert]

Kindly read the company proposal. It proposed in july to abolish catering and iamnpf.
My info came after the august meetings AND sidebar which had zero lus members present at the sidebar. For instance, prez may only have 80% of the info. He simply was not in the sidebar and may have not even be allowed in negotiations. He is just a mouthpiece for sito. Nothing against prez.
During the august meetings, there was alot of movement. For instance, the iamnpf is now unfortunately included.

How do we know your information is right? Lot of jobs here to just pull it out your a$$. So what you are saying is the company today put out a hi-lite sheet that is a month old and already amended?

 

[Koolcat]

Time for our negotiators to lay their cards on the table and refute the company's letter.

 

[Talos]

Team,

In an effort to reach a joint collective bargaining agreement (JCBA) with the TWU-IAM Association, in mid-July we presented the Association with a proposal that covers all remaining open items of the collective bargaining agreement. In Railway Labor Act (RLA) negotiations, offering a comprehensive proposal is usually one of the last steps in the negotiating process.

We have yet to receive a response to our comprehensive proposal. The Association has indicated it intends to fully respond to our comprehensive proposal in early October after the TWU National Convention. In the month since we presented our offer, a lot of rumors have been circulating about what is and isn't included, and we thought it made sense to provide the facts.

It is important that you have accurate information. Our approach to these negotiations is different from how the company has bargained in the past. We aren’t presenting a low-ball offer knowing that more benefits would be added after rounds of back and forth at the table. We want you to have an overall industry-leading contract and have put forward a proposal that would do just that. It is a proposal that:

Gives team members the highest pay rates in the industry. You received industry-leading (the better of Delta and United) pay rates in August 2016 when we implemented significant pay increases before a JCBA was reached. Our proposal offers additional increases that keep your pay rates at the top of the industry (current Delta plus 3%) along with increases in premiums and shift differentials, plus annual increases for the duration of the agreement.

Provides significant improvements to holidays and time off. In the areas of overtime, holidays, vacations, sick and shift premiums, our proposal offers the more generous of the current TWU or IAM contract – for example, double time pay for working all eligible holidays, including Memorial Day and Labor Day – or in some cases, improvements that match the industry’s best.

Provides a company 401(k) contribution and a company match that are as rich as the industry’s best. Under this proposal, all TWU-IAM-represented team members would participate in the company’s 401(k) plan that has potential for greater contributions than were available under the IAM multi-employer pension plan or the current 401(k) plan available to TWU members. We have proposed an automatic company contribution of 3% plus a 401(k) match of up to an additional 6% of a team member’s salary – a total of up to 9%.

Moves TWU-IAM-represented team members to the same medical plans as all other employees. We’ve proposed that legacy US Airways Fleet Service and Tech Ops team members move to the same medical plans that already cover TWU and everyone else at American. The company covers roughly 80% of the cost for medical coverage, while the employee takes on 20%. That is a terrific ratio especially when compared to other large employers. Preventative care visits and eligible tests, and eligible vaccinations, cost $0 for enrolled team members and dependents. Lastly, the US Airways PPO 100/90/80 plans are not sustainable, which is why all other team members – including tens of thousands from legacy US Airways – have already moved to these medical plans. Currently 80,000 of American’s more than 100,000 team members are managing their health under the new plans.

Keeps our core Maintenance and Fleet Service work at American. Today American does a lot more work in-house than any of our competitors. That will remain the case under this proposal. Over time, we need to evolve the types of work we do in-house to become more competitive and focus on areas critical to running an airline. With any of the proposed scope changes, all of which are outlined below, we have offered job protections to ensure that everyone working on the property today will have a job tomorrow. And if your duty assignment changes, you will not have to move to a different city to keep your job.

We are currently operating in 40 stations where either LUS or LAA team members perform mainline Fleet Service work, which is more than any other legacy carrier. We are proposing insourcing any mainline Fleet Service work currently done by a third party at those stations. Using limitations in the existing contracts, and providing new protections for some types of work, we will continue to insource more aircraft maintenance work than all US operators including our primary competitors, keeping our existing AMTs and Related team members busy working American aircraft, engines and components.

Deicing needs, on the other hand, vary based on unpredictable weather. We propose moving deicing to a vendor who focuses only on that function. They have advanced technology and the ability to flex staffing when needed without taking our Fleet Service team away from their regular duties. The same goes for catering – third parties manage catering at all but five of our stations, so we are proposing those five stations move to a vendor. That way the work is handled by a company that lives and breathes catering.

For GSE and Facilities and Plant Maintenance, we are proposing to continue that work in stations where we do it today, but have the option to transition some work to a vendor in the future. At 10 locations (primarily hubs and base maintenance locations) American will continue to perform the majority of GSE maintenance work that is core to our business – e.g. maintaining and repairing essential ground equipment. For Facility Maintenance at select stations, we will continue to repair and maintain operationally critical equipment and systems, such as bag belts, jet bridges, etc. But for things like painting facilities, we plan to transition that work to external contractors. Mechanics performing that work today will continue to do so, but as team members retire or leave the company we will not hire new employees to perform that work.

We’re very proud of our proposal. While some elements may not seem as favorable as a similar provision at another airline, what’s on the table is an industry-leading contract overall that would cost American significantly more than implementing either the Delta or United contracts. Everyone will receive increases to their overall compensation, and no one will be out of a job to fund those increases. For the first time in a long time we are consistently profitable; that translates into hundreds of millions of dollars a year in pay and benefits to provide TWU-IAM-represented team members with the industry-leading contract you deserve.

We are meeting with the Association the weeks of Aug. 28 and Sept. 11, but the current plan is to discuss only non-economic proposals until after the September TWU National Convention. As always, we continue to be available to meet with the Association’s negotiating team to discuss or answer questions at any time.

These are important times. We are committed to creating an environment that cares for our frontline team members, and transitioning our TWU-IAM team to a single, industry-leading contract is an important step to achieving that objective. We appreciate everything you all do for our customers and your fellow team members. We’ll share additional information on these proposals or negotiations in the future but for now, thank you for taking the time to understand the facts, and please let either of us know if you have any questions or comments.

The letter makes it appear that the company is giving the 401k to all members and wants to get rid of the IAMPF, or not enhance it. Sounds like the IAM people will get a choice at least. Don't like how they give you back stuff that you had and act like it's such a great deal. I think the protesting has also made the company start thinking they need to get a deal done. I think it has been effective.

 

[WeAAsles]

In an internal communication to TWU-IAM Association members at American Airlines, Kerry Philipovitch and David Seymour—American executives who have not attended one negotiating session—claim the Association is dragging its feet in responding to American’s “comprehensive” proposal. FALSE! Association executive level negotiators told American negotiators that their comprehensive proposal belongs in the garbage. It is an insult to the membership and doesn’t deserve any further response.

Accurate information is important. The company’s “comprehensive” proposal does the following:

Outsources work and eliminates jobs
Maintains legacy American’s high cost health care
Includes insulting wage rates that are not industry-leading
Eliminates pensions and shifts risk to workers

Their “comprehensive” proposal was also riddled with basic mistakes including significant errors in wage scales and retirement language. The negotiators that sold Manhattan to the Dutch for $24 were better prepared.

We invite these ghost negotiators, Kerry and David, to show up at our next negotiating session so we can give them the personal response they deserve.
And American’s entire negotiating team is welcome to attend one of the collective bargaining training sessions at the IAM’s Winpisinger Center. Maybe then they will develop the skill set required to bargain a fair contract that Association members deserve.

The “comprehensive” proposal is akin to a bribe and a bad one at that. Association represented workers will not be fooled. American Airlines is the most profitable carrier in the industry and American Airlines’ Association workers deserve a truly industry-leading contract.

Fraternally,

On behalf of the TWU-IAM Association,

Sito Pantoja
Visit Our Website

http://www.usaamerger.com/

 

[Albert]

In an internal communication to TWU-IAM Association members at American Airlines, Kerry Philipovitch and David Seymour—American executives who have not attended one negotiating session—claim the Association is dragging its feet in responding to American’s “comprehensive” proposal. FALSE! Association executive level negotiators told American negotiators that their comprehensive proposal belongs in the garbage. It is an insult to the membership and doesn’t deserve any further response.

Accurate information is important. The company’s “comprehensive” proposal does the following:

Outsources work and eliminates jobs
Maintains legacy American’s high cost health care
Includes insulting wage rates that are not industry-leading
Eliminates pensions and shifts risk to workers

Their “comprehensive” proposal was also riddled with basic mistakes including significant errors in wage scales and retirement language. The negotiators that sold Manhattan to the Dutch for $24 were better prepared.

We invite these ghost negotiators, Kerry and David, to show up at our next negotiating session so we can give them the personal response they deserve.
And American’s entire negotiating team is welcome to attend one of the collective bargaining training sessions at the IAM’s Winpisinger Center. Maybe then they will develop the skill set required to bargain a fair contract that Association members deserve.

The “comprehensive” proposal is akin to a bribe and a bad one at that. Association represented workers will not be fooled. American Airlines is the most profitable carrier in the industry and American Airlines’ Association workers deserve a truly industry-leading contract.

Fraternally,

On behalf of the TWU-IAM Association,

Sito Pantoja
Visit Our Website

http://www.usaamerger.com/

Thanks Weez he called the proposal a bribe how are you going to bribe someone with a piece of chit? the only thing that looks good maybe is the 401 even the pay is no longer the higher of DL or UA.

 

[Talos]

That's harsh eliminating the IAMPF. What about people enrolled for a long time? Lying to employees isn't a smart way to go either. Too bad they just want to take from one area to give to another.

 

[Tim Nelson]

In an internal communication to TWU-IAM Association members at American Airlines, Kerry Philipovitch and David Seymour—American executives who have not attended one negotiating session—claim the Association is dragging its feet in responding to American’s “comprehensive” proposal. FALSE! Association executive level negotiators told American negotiators that their comprehensive proposal belongs in the garbage. It is an insult to the membership and doesn’t deserve any further response.

Accurate information is important. The company’s “comprehensive” proposal does the following:

Outsources work and eliminates jobs
Maintains legacy American’s high cost health care
Includes insulting wage rates that are not industry-leading
Eliminates pensions and shifts risk to workers

Their “comprehensive” proposal was also riddled with basic mistakes including significant errors in wage scales and retirement language. The negotiators that sold Manhattan to the Dutch for $24 were better prepared.

We invite these ghost negotiators, Kerry and David, to show up at our next negotiating session so we can give them the personal response they deserve.
And American’s entire negotiating team is welcome to attend one of the collective bargaining training sessions at the IAM’s Winpisinger Center. Maybe then they will develop the skill set required to bargain a fair contract that Association members deserve.

The “comprehensive” proposal is akin to a bribe and a bad one at that. Association represented workers will not be fooled. American Airlines is the most profitable carrier in the industry and American Airlines’ Association workers deserve a truly industry-leading contract.

Fraternally,

On behalf of the TWU-IAM Association,

Sito Pantoja
Visit Our Website

http://www.usaamerger.com/

Sito ought to put out a letter of support to the twu picketing instead of tossing juvenile barbie tantrum lletters at 2 company employees fronting for parker.
Sheesh.

 

[Albert]

That's harsh eliminating the IAMPF. What about people enrolled for a long time? Lying to employees isn't a smart way to go either. Too bad they just want to take from one area to give to another.

That's just sticking it to Sito for insisting on the LUS medical, in my opinion at least after all I'm not Tim with an inside scoop(allegedly)

 

[Tim Nelson]

How do we know your information is right? Lot of jobs here to just pull it out your a$$. So what you are saying is the company today put out a hi-lite sheet that is a month old and already amended?

The company talked completely around the hot august nights. Even the negotiating team recognized the progress. What happened was that after i put out the info about an AIP with fleet, many mx on my FB group became livid about why the company was now protecting fleet jobs but wanting to contract out mx work.
So, the company used an out of date proposal claiming it was going to contract out much of fleet service as well. All fake news.
The intended audience is mx.

 

[Albert]

The company talked completely around the hot august nights. Even the negotiating team recognized the progress. What happened was that after i put out the info about an AIP with fleet, many mx on my FB group became livid about why the company was now protecting fleet jobs but wanting to contract out mx work.
So, the company used an out of date proposal claiming it was going to contract out much of fleet service as well. All fake news.
The intended audience is mx.

Come on Tim "Much of fleet service" . This is why I have trouble believing you

 

[Tim Nelson]

Come on Tim "Much of fleet service" . This is why I have trouble believing you

Listen to me now, believe me later. But yes, the company july proposal was contracting out much of fleet work. 1000+ jobs. You dont have to believe their letter either.

 

[AANOTOK]

Listen to me now, believe me later. But yes, the company july proposal was contracting out much of fleet work. 1000+ jobs. You dont have to believe their letter either.

If true, shame on the union for not putting that out.

 

[Kev3188]

AA's claim of having the most staffed station of any legacy carrier (40) is false.

Delta has 43.

I hope P. Rez and Co. we're quick to call that out.

 

[avi]

Time for our negotiators to lay their cards on the table and refute the company's letter.

and get someone to proof read their letter!!!!

 

[lax]

that letter is very generic to say the least, it's long on making the company look good but it's very short on specifics .

your kidding right? albeit unacceptable that letter provided more specifics in terms of intentions than we've ever been given from the so called people that represent us...sad if you ask me! the ASSES need to just release the proposal and for once let the members arrive at their own conclusions