WeAAsles
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JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet
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WeAAsles
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OK then if NYer came and repositioned your beltloader you'd be pissed. Quit the semantics BS
How about telling the negotiators this is the way it is. Oh and our union leaders aren't AA employees are they. You keep forgetting who you work for
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Al the fact is and I can continue to repeat it over and over and over. You guys don't honestly care about us at all because you "think" you pretty much got everything already. I hear it from my guys all throughout the system when they talk to US guys.
"I don't care how long it takes" "I don't want to get stuck with your Medical" "I get more Holidays than you" "I get Double time on second day off"
A lot of the guys I talk to who've heard this crap again to be honest don't have any sympathy for the plight of the poor US guy when they keep hearing nothing but gloating.
Me on the other hand "try" to be a little more understanding. But even my patience has its limits.
To any US guy who says that to me though I say "You want to compare your last 20 years to mine"
That's shuts them down right quick.
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All of my Negotiators are AA employees. And many of the Leaders have an anchor to AA as well.
As a matter of fact isn't even Sito ex TWA which means AA?
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Guess he has a low seniority date then
Chit
Weez you guys still have it better way more employees, better lead pay you get paid to do your tests. Don't forget the billions the company is putting in your frozen plan ect. How many 7th days do you think we get we get 2 more friggin holidays big chit. But what do we have to lose?
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Well now there you go. And the reason we need to get that Joint (One) CBA. So we aren't comparing differences anymore and we're all swingin from the same vines.
And Al just like I said to Metal IF the TA sux WE vote it down and send them all back to the tables.
But eventually we have to have something that we can make a choice on. (And then I'll get you a unique TWU shirt if it passes)
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I have a question here with regards to shift bids..
our station manager loves to make shift bids so screwy like for example couple lines with 3 different starting times for both pt and ft does any other station do that?
another crappy thing she does is she took all the weekend off lines and converted to either fri sat or sun mon lines
I know the folks who like weekends off wont like it for me I don't take weekends off as I prefer week days but I would like to know if other stations do this same b.s. that our crappy mgr does
our station manager loves to make shift bids so screwy like for example couple lines with 3 different starting times for both pt and ft does any other station do that?
another crappy thing she does is she took all the weekend off lines and converted to either fri sat or sun mon lines
I know the folks who like weekends off wont like it for me I don't take weekends off as I prefer week days but I would like to know if other stations do this same b.s. that our crappy mgr does
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Everyone seems to forget how the AAL side received raises from the US executives before the IAM was able to get their negotiations signed off.
Can't really blame these negotiations taking a long time because of the Medical since they haven't started those conversations yet. Nothing that is happening now should be seen as a surprise, except to those that thought this was going to be an easy and quick process.
It is difficult to merge two cultures into one JCBA, change isn't easy. If this process was explained step by step as it went along it is reasonable to expect the frustrations wouldn't be as high as they are. That frustration is fueled by not knowing what is happening and what challenges are being faced.
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I can't speak for the exact particulars in how many lines we have that are changed or modified from bid to bid here in MIA. But to the credit of both a very good bid committee and I have to think local management cooperation the bids are very good unlike when I worked in DFW.
Most of our straight gates are weekends or partial weekends off and the relief crews who have multiple gates all have weekdays off.
There are always of course things people can complain about but when it comes to the bids here that's not one thing from my perspective working in other places that holds too much water.
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Thanks WeAA. I was curious bed before our current mgr came out bids were straight lines. I know a lot of our senior agents liked it far better than the crap we have
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