JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

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If UA tops at 30.77. We are still below them by 60 cents
United tops out at $25.78. In November they go up to $29.77 or around there. Our pay is UA +1%.

We get a 2% in September, 2017 that keeps us at the top, $30.81
 
Tim Nelson said:
United tops out at $25.78. In November they go up to $29.77 or around there. Our pay is UA +1%.

We get a 2% in September, 2017 that keeps us at the top, $30.81
What happened to the infighting? You said over and over that they were infighting? Where's the blood? Where's the gore? Where did they put the Battleaxes, Hammers and Swords? Where are the ramparts?  
 
Tim Nelson said:
United tops out at $25.78. In November they go up to $29.77 or around there. Our pay is UA +1%.

We get a 2% in September, 2017 that keeps us at the top, $30.81
Well it's not the 3% above quoted line but, meh. We now move forward.

So Tim how about you now throw out a BIG thank you to the TWU/IAM Association, the Leaders of the Association, Your negotiators and yes of course Doug Parker and the BOD? 
 
Parker also had an interest in doing this because the starting wage left the company uncompetitive. Now, with the starting wage at industry best, we may be able to hire or attract or keep better new hires as well. The scale is 12 years to top out. 13 steps. Starting pay is $13.89 or something like that offhand.
 
WeAAsles said:
What happened to the infighting? You said over and over that they were infighting? Where's the blood? Where's the gore? Where did they put the Battleaxes, Hammers and Swords? Where are the ramparts?  
Not for nothing W, can you kinda of let it die?? Right or wrong, things are now moving forward!
 
Tim Nelson said:
Sorry Bob, I couldn't reveal who 'ned' was but I got the info less than an hour after it was signed.$30.17 effective Monday.IT is given 3 months to phase it in the computers, November. Until then, Parker wants everyone to have their money now so he will provide a lump sum check in a couple weeks that anticipates the amount any ramper will be left out until the IT is finished. But it will be predicted on your last 12 months and based on $30.17. I don't believe he is going to ask for any overages but they will issue an other check for any underages in a couple months. The pension and 401k get a boost, and cross utilization can now happen in all airports.This is a very good gesture by Parker.
Please clarify this.
Is the lump sum going back over the last 12 months at the new rate?
 
AANOTOK said:
Not for nothing W, can you kinda of let it die?? Right or wrong, things are now moving forward!
Now I have to wonder though if this will wind up stalling the rest of the negotiations? Personally I'm not going to make any large purchases until we have a full JCBA in place.

Just want to make sure everything is all written and secure in Legalese.
 
Sorry Bob, I couldn't reveal who 'ned' was but I got the info less than an hour after it was signed.
$30.17 effective Monday.
IT is given 3 months to phase it in the computers, November. Until then, Parker wants everyone to have their money now so he will provide a lump sum check in a couple weeks that anticipates the amount any ramper will be left out until the IT is finished. But it will be predicted on your last 12 months and based on $30.17. I don't believe he is going to ask for any overages but they will issue an other check for any underages in a couple months. The pension and 401k get a boost, and cross utilization can now happen in all airports.

This is a very good gesture by Parker.
you took a lot of heat from weaasles who said there was zero chance of this happening after you posted it yesterday. Do you want to share how all of this came about? As always very thankful for your truthfulness and your willingness to look pass a few individuals who like to bust your balls. Can you let us know how all of this took place?
 
Now I have to wonder though if this will wind up stalling the rest of the negotiations? Personally I'm not going to make any large purchases until we have a full JCBA in place.

Just want to make sure everything is all written and secure in Legalese.
do you think anyone cares about any purchases you make? All you do is stir the pot on here and cause division against our workforce. Give tim credit for giving us a heads up.
 
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