JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

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WeAAsles said:
Zero chance of Parker giving us the $$Money$$ without having all the other items in place.

I give the chance zero.
If he gave us the money and got us to integrate it would be the same as having a bankruptcy contact with the existing articles. $30.77 I wonder how a vote on something like that would go?
 
Rumor mill we here are hearing is that in the few stations that has catering it stays. But company supposedly wants mail n freight gone
 
robbedagain said:
Rumor mill we here are hearing is that in the few stations that has catering it stays. But company supposedly wants mail n freight gone
And I can see where there would be an Association conflict...AA has five Cargo stations they still work, many employees. US of course has a few catering stations (employees not sure) but I'm assuming neither want to lose them. Anyway, the Ass better not come back with either gone, that is a concession, and a huge one.
 
By the way, the have already taken ALL of our mail.
 
AANOTOK said:
And I can see where there would be an Association conflict...AA has five Cargo stations they still work, many employees. US of course has a few catering stations (employees not sure) but I'm assuming neither want to lose them. Anyway, the Ass better not come back with either gone, that is a concession, and a huge one.
 
By the way, the have already taken ALL of our mail.
 That rumor probably started in a catering city. I agree with you, if they didn't take them in bankruptcy why now
 
They did want them all in our BK contract, but gave us those 5 and took other high seniority jobs in exchange I believe. But at one time, all were gone on the chopping block.
 
I will repeat it until I'm blue in the face, instead "rumors" and "reliable sources", have the Association update it's members with substance and not generic and hollow info. The rumors and other things do nothing but anger the members and question both the Association and authenticity of those reliable sources and rumors. If you have noticed, most info that has been released has been on the negative side. Waiting for a good rumor or update...
 
AANOTOK said:
They did want them all in our BK contract, but gave us those 5 and took other high seniority jobs in exchange I believe. But at one time, all were gone on the chopping block.
As far as jobs go with this contract the worse should be status quo 
 
We still do both in my station but catering has been dwindled down to 1 flex flight/redeye PHX as LAA 738 replaced both out PHX flights
 
Worldport said:
As far as jobs go with this contract the worse should be status quo 
i think it's possible if not probable that we lose jobs but not heads. they will be absorbed. But i'm of the belief AA wants all senior jobs therefore forcing some to retire. I'm against any outsourcing of something we currently do.
 
What's amazing is in the last to video's of the State of the Airline and Town Hall, Mr. Isom and others said they have had terrible problems with their outsourced catering, "they can't get them motivated to do their job". Said it was a problem they had no answer for at this time and it was a HUGE issue.
 
robbedagain said:
Rumor mill we here are hearing is that in the few stations that has catering it stays. But company supposedly wants mail n freight gone
Catering is staying. They may even pick some up elsewhere. Current cargo is fine.
 
Worldport said:
That goes against negotiations 101 doesn't it. Unless there was more to it ,like integration. if you look at it we lose that way too
Parker hasnt been using negotiations 101. He tossed out the stew arbitration and instead gave then 12% more then added 9% hike then profit sharing.

It seems as if parker has been fair so i would think, to stay consistent, that we may sign the profit sharing and/or some money prior to a full ta.
 
Tim Nelson said:
Catering is staying. They may even pick some up elsewhere. Current cargo is fine.
I was gonna say, I just spoke to my "reliable source" and he says Cargo and catering are not being discussed as "on there way out". Of course it's only as reliable as it from his mouth to my ears.
 
AANOTOK said:
I was gonna say, I just spoke to my "reliable source" and he says Cargo and catering are not being discussed as "on there way out". Of course it's only as reliable as it from his mouth to my ears.
I believe your "reliable source" over Wikileaks, Deep therapy or any other "handle" it wants to go by.
 
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