JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I think I might leave too?

Getting tired of the BS here. And I’m not so sure I like Dictatorships either. In Dictatorships is where Journalists disappear, or on here too maybe.

Forums is dead anyway. All we do here is bash each other now.

Forums is honestly dead or dying anyway. Get rid of your most controversial posters and it completely dies.

You can only agree with each other so much before you’ll all grow as bored as **** and just fade away.

I think maybe I’d rather get myself cast out of this Country and go walk the green hills elsewhere perhaps.

If this winds up being my last comment or post good luck to everyone and it was fun. Have fun kicking me in the ass as I leave the room. Look me up on Facebook, my full name is on here.

Why would you think I want to stay here and continue these games any longer? This is childish bullshit. It really is.

Are you leaving or not?

Stop whinging and get on with it.

Frankly I can't wait to see your two faced, manipulative, hypocritical, propaganda spreading posts gone.

You will not be missed by me.

Again, feel free to take Dog and Bears with you. You three deserve each other.

 

[Tim Nelson]

BTW Here’s another TWU Fleet Presidents update. This is Local 512 ORD.

December 16, 2017

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

I spent this week in Contract Negotiations in Dallas. We spent much of the week working on the Scope Article. The Fleet and M&R rooms worked together to insure that the language did not pose conflict across Title Groups, and also to maximize the work that we perform. As this is among the most complex articles in the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement (JCBA), it is proving to be a time-consuming process. The Scope article describes the very work that we do. As there are significant differences between the Scope language in the IAM/LUS and the TWU/LAA contracts, the compiling of data, the combining of existing language, and the writing of new language requires significant time and resources. As most everyone has understandingly become anxious to reach a settlement in these talks, getting hasty and rushing through this process is simply not an option. The entire Negotiating Committee is committed to bring an industry leading contract to you, and well written Scope language is the very foundation for long-term job security for us all. The work on Scope will continue throughout the weeks ahead until both the Fleet and M&R Negotiating Committees meet in DCA on January 8, 2018. Again, Scope is among the economic articles and economic issues are historically discussed toward the end of the negotiating process.

On to the other hot topic: Equity Distribution. There has been significant progress toward the distribution of these funds recently, yet, the necessary arrangements have not been finalized at this time. Unfortunately, there has been some information shared on social media this week that is simply premature and unverifiable. Again, the two hurdles that remain include verification of the tax implications for the capital gains realized, and, the actual method that will be utilized to deliver the money to you. Until such time that both of these matters are resolved, no official information can be shared. Finally, Local 512 has absolutely no say whatsoever of how and when these funds will be distributed, yet, we have made it very clear to the International Leadership that our membership is becoming very impatient. We will pass along any information as soon as it becomes available.

My calendar is very full in the upcoming weeks. As the year draws to an end, there are two big issues relating to benefits that are must be attended to before 1/1/2018. The first involves the change of the Union’s Short Term Disability (STD) carrier from The Standard to The Hartford. For those members that have the coverage, a seamless transition will occur with no action necessary on your part, however much work and planning has been going on for some months behind the scenes to achieve that goal. Secondly, for those members moving into the Long Term Disability Plan (LTD), much work is being done to ensure a smooth transition for 1/1/2018. One very beneficial thing that resulted from the move to The Hartford for both the TWU STD and LTD plans is for those that transition from STD to LTD, there will be a much easier and seamless claims process. Contract negotiations continue the week of January 8 in DCA. Benefits and Workers Compensation meetings are scheduled for the week of January 15 in DFW. Contract negotiations are scheduled for the week of January 22 in DCA. Finally, I will be attending meeting of the International Executive Board during the week of January 29 in MIA.

Fraternally,
Tim Murphy

Honestly, your Local President, Sidney is better off not bull S'ing members like ours Tim Murphy does. Murphy been going around the breakrooms talking about the equity progress for months. So, STOP IT WEEZ! Immediately after Murphy leaves, everyone laughs and shakes there head at him because he believes his own BS. And his update on Contract Negotiations was a blatant lie. He was NOT in contract negotiations. Depending upon which city, sometimes Murphy sits down the hall, next floor down, or even across the street at another building. But you know that so I don't understand why you continue the lies. Sad.

And btw, Murphy's letter is thoroughly insulting. He claims that they decided to get with MX and work on scope. Shouldn't that have been done a couple years ago? Look, his narrative is complete fake. He may not know it but the deal was already wrapped up this past August. You claimed to me that you even knew.

But check this out dog, They been selling this whole scam that they are reconciling scope of MX and Fleet so that they can be prepared to give a counter proposal. Isn't something wrong with them saying that for the last year? Make up some other story tale. Story tales are fine but they get boring when they are redo's after redo's. Unfortunately, peeps like you buy this stuff. GP had you thnking he was going to "Fix" everything in two weeks. A sore crash back down to Earth. I keep trying to tell you weez but you just don't listen. Sorry.

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[Tim Nelson]

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Weez, that guy resembles you. I used to like that show House.

At any rate, weez, this page is entertaining and you are a big part of that. I don't want to see you go. Who is going to go to the mat for GP's next bold prediction if you arent' here? I keep telling you guys, but you just don't listen. It's all about IAM politics. Alex worships Sito and believes in Sito's assurances that Mr Nelson has no support and is not even going to get an election. Alex has no idea on IAM politics but Mr Alex needs to realize that there is going to be a District election in June. So, Alex is going to have to change the story tales with his new year resolution. Sito won't be around after April.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

At any rate, weez, this page is entertaining and you are a big part of that. I don't want to see you go

I do. I really do.

 

[swamt]

So eventually if people don’t agree with you after a set amount of time you prefer they get wiped from existence then?

You see I think our Country is already polarized (paralyzed) enough for my taste.

And you really just chose to ignore what I wrote fully to you anyway.

Why would you think I want to stay here and continue these games any longer? This is childish bullshit. It really is.

Not what I said at all weez, and you know it. The folks I listed were here to spread complete false info, misleading info. and complete lies about AMFA, TWU/IAM/asso., and other industry news. It is NOT because they disagreed with me as you state, it's because they spread false rumors and lies about our industry, PERIOD.
Really weez? LOL. So why then, are you still here continuing the games? Really weez, why??? Then why do YOU sir still continue in the childish bullshite. If it really is to you, then WTFAUSH???
What a complete hypocrite...

 

[swamt]

Are you leaving or not?

Stop whinging and get on with it.

Frankly I can't wait to see your two faced, manipulative, hypocritical, propaganda spreading posts gone.

You will not be missed by me.

Again, feel free to take Dog and Bears with you. You three deserve each other.

LOL. 100% correct sir!!!

 

[swamt]

Honestly, your Local President, Sidney is better off not bull S'ing members like ours Tim Murphy does. Murphy been going around the breakrooms talking about the equity progress for months. So, STOP IT WEEZ! Immediately after Murphy leaves, everyone laughs and shakes there head at him because he believes his own BS. And his update on Contract Negotiations was a blatant lie. He was NOT in contract negotiations. Depending upon which city, sometimes Murphy sits down the hall, next floor down, or even across the street at another building. But you know that so I don't understand why you continue the lies. Sad.

And btw, Murphy's letter is thoroughly insulting. He claims that they decided to get with MX and work on scope. Shouldn't that have been done a couple years ago? Look, his narrative is complete fake. He may not know it but the deal was already wrapped up this past August. You claimed to me that you even knew.

But check this out dog, They been selling this whole scam that they are reconciling scope of MX and Fleet so that they can be prepared to give a counter proposal. Isn't something wrong with them saying that for the last year? Make up some other story tale. Story tales are fine but they get boring when they are redo's after redo's. Unfortunately, peeps like you buy this stuff. GP had you thnking he was going to "Fix" everything in two weeks. A sore crash back down to Earth. I keep trying to tell you weez but you just don't listen. Sorry.

We all have been trying to tell him this crap. He's just in too deep with the asso. to see it. BTW how the hell did I know about all the concessions being asked for from company and he didn't? Makes you wonder at this point doesn't it??

 

[Tim Nelson]

We all have been trying to tell him this crap. He's just in too deep with the asso. to see it. BTW how the hell did I know about all the concessions being asked for from company and he didn't? Makes you wonder at this point doesn't it??

I'm sure he is following the $$. He won't get a big gig but I'm sure he was promised a gig to float over to FLL and try to organize JetBlue, or something to get him off the ramp. Honestly, he is a bright guy, he just looks bad because he is suppose to keep the flame burning on here. But GP pushed it too far claiming a TA before January. That one is on Weez as I think he actually bought it. He will be fine, he just keeps taking the bait from a few IAM guys who take advantage of him underestimating IAM politics. Dude actually thinks we are going to have a TA before the elections. He just don't listen and isn't thinking properly. Because it makes no logical sense to bring out the AIG in TA form and toss away LUS health care. All AGC's will lose their elections. Duh.

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[NYer]

Don't know about all the Tim political stuff but going on the information released and connecting the dots it seems plausible to not have a TA by April.

The Company pushed a Comprehensive Proposal in July and the Association is only now getting to preparing a counter-propsal to something they deemed not even worthy of a response back in August.

That being the case and them being so far apart, it would seem there would need to be a dramatic turn by either the Association or the Airline in order to have the two sides reach common ground on the Scope piece, never mind the medical.

And if Fleet will continue to wait for all the Maintenance groups then the wait could be even longer.

 

[WeAAsles]

We all have been trying to tell him this crap. He's just in too deep with the asso. to see it. BTW how the hell did I know about all the concessions being asked for from company and he didn't? Makes you wonder at this point doesn't it??

 

[WeAAsles]

Not what I said at all weez, and you know it. The folks I listed were here to spread complete false info, misleading info. and complete lies about AMFA, TWU/IAM/asso., and other industry news. It is NOT because they disagreed with me as you state, it's because they spread false rumors and lies about our industry, PERIOD.
Really weez? LOL. So why then, are you still here continuing the games? Really weez, why??? Then why do YOU sir still continue in the childish bullshite. If it really is to you, then WTFAUSH???
What a complete hypocrite...