IAM Welcomes America West Maintenance Instructors

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IAM Welcomes America West Maintenance Instructors
The National Mediation Board has extended the IAM’s certification for US Airways Maintenance Training Specialists to cover Maintenance Instructors from the former America West Airlines.

“These new members will join their US Airways colleagues under the existing IAM contract and begin accruing benefits under the IAM National Pension Plan,” said Transportation GVP Robert Roach, Jr. “We look forward to providing the same IAM benefits to America West’s Mechanics and Fleet Service personnel in the very near future.”

The IAM National Pension Plan provides US Airways Maintenance Training Specialists a monthly benefit of $148.66 per year of credited service and is scheduled to increase this July.

Don't forget to welcome the scabs the iam is organizing in Detroit!! The End

 

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name='fanlube' post='375785' date='Apr 27 2006, 05:29 PM']
And while we are on the subject, when U turned over the M&R pension over to the PBGC where was the IAM fighting to get the members in the pension then, it wasn't until the IBT got involved did the IAM start touting it's pension to it's members!

if i remember correctly,there was movement from IAM back in BK1 to get into the IAM national pension fund but the reason it wouldn't go was due to the fact that actuarily speaking the U IAM group was to old to contribute over time(and it was short) and get anything out of it due to the median age of the workforce.

Don't forget to welcome the scabs the iam is organizing in Detroit!! The End

before you get all touchy feely over IAM's pursuit of scabs......IBT has a been there done that clause in their playbook....

IAM has no exclusive here

twice baked??

company union??

Dave Beck's Teamsters, collaborating with the company to defeat the machinists union.

 

[Awa Contract]

Over 50 years ago? Come now dell that is a bit of a reach even for someone as brainwashed as you.

 

[700AW]

there that 50 year old story, but a copy of the original cba that shows stock clerks and airplane cleaners in the original cba can not be found!!! HHmmm........

 

[700UW]

Guess it is so hard for you to understand the language I all ready posted.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Good news for the union, and in my opinion for everyone involved. Followed by endless bickering.

"Which side are you on?"

 

[700AW]

Guess it is so hard for you to understand the language I all ready posted.

7, try as you might, what you posted was not a fifty some-odd year old contract. There is an NMB r04593 that sets the class and craft fior US, try reading it...

 

[700UW]

The Class and craft is set by the NMB the Stock Clerks were added to the language shortly after the original certifiction, in my 20 years the stock clerks have always been under the same CBA, and I know one clerk who has over 40 years and has always been under the CBA.

The class and craft was also amended to add the Planners, MOC, and other related groups in the late 90s.

The R# for US IAM is R2146 per the NMB.

 

[700AW]

The Class and craft is set by the NMB the Stock Clerks were added to the language shortly after the original certifiction, in my 20 years the stock clerks have always been under the same CBA, and I know one clerk who has over 40 years and has always been under the CBA.

The class and craft was also amended to add the Planners, MOC, and other related groups in the late 90s.

The R# for US IAM is R2146 per the NMB.

so there, you ain't been telling the whole truth when you say stockers has always been under the contract with M&R...
try r-4593

Somebody been lying......
I guess they got them included later, where is an origiinal, not the current verssion.. now don't follow us Ibt'ers and defelct or send personal insults when you can't prove what you say

 

[INSP17]

More like the maintenance training department was raped by the IAM most of the personnel wanted nothing to do with the IAM, they all lost vacation time, sick time, and took a nice paycut to boot!

So is it the IAM leading contract standard that everyone should take it in the short with a paycut cause you did?

As for your pension 7 I asked and have been sending e-mails and phone calls asking all about this wonderful pension plan, cause it's the same one that we had at TWA and NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY WENT? The IAM told us that after American bought TWA that our pension money was safe but no one can find it... AMAZING IAM PENSION bite me I'll put mine in my 401 so I know where it is!!!!!!

 

[700UW]

The 1st contract was in 1949, no one around has a copy except the International and some of the retired reps. It is not relevant.

TWA plans were taken over by the PBGC.

Gee it took me one minute to find out where and who controls TWA's pension plan, guess you did not try to even find it.

PBGC Will Meet With Participants in Trans World Airlines Pension Plans

Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) representatives will meet with former workers and retirees of Trans World Airlines (TWA) pension plans during March and April, 2001. The meetings will be held in St. Louis and Kansas City, Mo., Portsmouth, Va., Chicago, Ill., Islandia, N.Y., and Los Angeles and San Francisco, Ca.

PBGC took over two underfunded pension plans -- the Pilots’ Plan and Employees’ Plan -- of TWA on January 2, 2001, providing uninterrupted payment of benefits to retirees. The TWA pension plans, covering about 36,500 people, were underfunded by approximately $700 million. PBGC uses its assets to make up the shortfall.

At the meetings PBGC will copy any proof documents (birth and death certificates, marriage licenses, etc.) that former workers or retirees bring to the meeting. PBGC will also provide estimated benefit information sheets to participants who are not already receiving a benefit. Participants will have to show identification to receive the information sheet. Information sheets will be mailed to anyone who cannot attend the meetings.

Anyone with questions should contact PBGC’s Customer Service Center at 1-800-707-7242. For hearing-impaired TTY/TDD users, call the federal relay service toll-free at 1-800-877-8339 and ask to be connected to 1-800-707-7242.

PBGC is a federal corporation created under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 to guarantee payment of basic pension benefits earned by about 43 million American workers and retirees participating in nearly 40,000 private-sector defined benefit pension plans. The agency receives no funds from general tax revenues. Operations are financed largely by insurance premiums paid by companies that sponsor pension plans and investment returns.

Pension Plan Termination
July 2003

Arnold & Porter successfully represented Icahn Associates Corporation and Pichin Corporation in an appeal from a District Court ruling upholding a complex settlement of Carl Icahn's alleged $1.1 billion pension liability stemming from TWA's bankruptcy in 1992. During the 1992 TWA bankruptcy proceedings, Arnold & Porter represented Icahn-affiliated entities in negotiating a complex and novel settlement that envisioned a delayed termination by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation ("PBGC"), a division of the Labor Department, of TWA's pension plans, including the pension plan for TWA pilots. The settlement also limited the Icahn entities' potential liability upon plan termination to $240 million. In December 2000, the PBGC finally terminated the TWA pension plans under the settlement. The Air Line Pilots Association, a party to the settlement agreement, immediately sued the PBGC and two Icahn-affiliated entities, Pichin Corporation and Icahn Associates Corporation, to block termination of the pilots' pension plan. Arnold & Porter's litigation team, led by David Gersch, represented the Icahn-affiliated entities, and in March 2002 the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia granted summary judgment for the defendants and upheld termination of the pension plan as central to the settlement. The pilots appealed. In a 3-0 opinion, the D.C. Circuit affirmed the District Court's ruling on July 11, 2003.

 

[700AW]

700, it IS relevant if you are claiming that the stockers were under contract with M&R from the beginning, we want you to verify your info or don't post it
If stocker belonged under M&R, then why did'nt the NMB grant HP the ruling to include them with the ibt contract here??????

 

[700UW]

You will have to ask the NMB that.

The stock clerks have been under the CBA for at least 40 years.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

You will have to ask the NMB that.

The stock clerks have been under the CBA for at least 40 years.

And the whole issue is up for grabs with the NMB right now. Doesn't appear that it was a given since the ruling wasn't made right off the bat. And as 700AW said, the stock clerks at HP were turned down by the NMB to be included under the M&R contract. Waiting on the NMB............ :unsure:

And to beat the dead horse one more time.........forget the pension.........stick with the 401K.......I have control of my investments, the company match, pre tax, hardship withdrawals available, low interest loans available (and you pay yourself back with a 401K loan!!!), and on and on and on.

One more point to ponder...........the HP 401K is held by Fidelity. Didn't Fidelity just tie up financially with US Airways????

 

[BrutallyHonest]

A dollar figure cannot be put out as there are NO negotiations between the IAM and US because of the ibt filing for an election.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

But you said it was between $78 amd $145 per year of service. Your so called facts are way off. Still waiting for your info from Tommy.