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BLUTO said:
DOOSH NOBDY
CARE WHUT U
THINK> U R A
FAKE! WHY U
KEEP PMING
ME? R U IN LUV?
He keeps PMing me too, I wish there was a way to block it. I just delete them.
 
737823 said:
And you aren't an IAM member nor are you a participant in the IAMNPF. You make this way too easy.

Josh
 
 
700UW said:
And neither are you and you never were.
 
Dont let the facts get in your way.
 
And I was an IAM member for 20 years and an airline employee for over 20 years.
 
Can you say the same?
 
 
700UW said:
 
 
Answer the question.
 
 
737823 said:
Answer what?

Josh
You must have the worst comprehension skills.
 
For those of you that are thinking that the AA Frozen pension will just be rolled over into the IAMPF that is not true and simply will not happen or be allowed. Not only would the IAMPF accept billions in underfunding but that would obviously take the fund out of the Green Zone and cause it by law to have to make even further cuts to payouts for ALL participants. So #1 that makes zero sense and #2 it would not be allowed by law. Why would the IAMPF even want to take on AA's liabilities?

 
AMR says unless the pensions end, the company will have to come up with more than $800 million a year to pay for them.

 
In fact: AMR lobbied for and obtained pension relief from Congress that allowed the airline to reduce and defer pension payments. This funding relief has saved AMR more than $2.1 billion over the past six years. That's more than half of AMR's total $4 billion in cash on hand. In effect, that's money AMR borrowed from its workers' pensions, money that helped keep the company aloft.
For the next six years, thanks to the pension relief it already obtained, AMR's annual pension cost will be roughly half the $800 million the company says it will be. So the pensions are a lot more affordable than AMR claims.

http://www.pbgc.gov/wr/other/pg/american-airlines-pensions--get-the-facts.html
 
I can say with great confidence my life experience has been very different from yours.

Josh
 
737823 said:
I can say great confidence my life experience has been very different from yours.

Josh
Answer the question, what are you afraid of?
 
And you dont know me nor do you have any clue of my life experience.

Answer the question!
 
700UW said:
He keeps PMing me too, I wish there was a way to block it. I just delete them.
Click on your profile, go to “My Settings” – go to “Ignore Preferences” – Type in the posters ID (737823) into the "Add New User" box—There will be three options to choose from. You can select “Posts, Signatures, and Messages" individually, or in any combination, including all three options for complete ignore. To stop his PM's... you need to at least select "Messages", and make sure TO SAVE the settings before closing.
 
737823 said:
I can say with great confidence my life experience has been very different from yours.

Josh
I can say with great confidence that you are not who you claim to be...
 
roabilly said:
Click on your profile, go to “My Settings” – go to “Ignore Preferences” – Type in the posters ID (737823) into the Add New User box—There will be three options to choose from. You can select “Posts, Signatures, and Messages individually, or in any combination, including all three options for complete ignore. To stop his PM's... you need to at least select "Messages", and make sure SAVE the settings before closing.
THNKS ROA>
I JUSS DID 
WHUT U SAID!
NO MOR DOOSH
PM'S!
 
Kev3188 said:
 

Both points are true, though I still contend that a "fourth leg" of financial education should be added to the retirement stool the IAM likes to talk about... Actually, that should go for all organized labor...

As for the DC vs. DB argument, in the end whichever path most empowers workers is the way to go. I'd also add that at a *minimum* a one-time choice between either should be offered.
Many of us are uncomfortable with 100% of the company contributions going into one egg, i.e., IAMPF.  We have seen how this is not a good idea.  Yet we left negotiations without addressing the retirement issues.  Getting better company contributions and splitting it up in portions, or one time choice, is the fairest thing that can happen since many of us want nothing to do with a fund that nobody can control other than some IAM Pension trustee.
 

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