Hotline for HP and US Airways Mechanics

[700UW]

When pension money is laundered to the mafia and all the ibt pension funds are underfunded and in trouble I find that a problem.

The IAM's officer elections are not controlled by the Government like the ibt's are.

And dues money being given to the mafia is a big problem.

 

[AP Tech]

Underfunded pensions, Hate to break the news but thats the norm in Corporate America and Gov these days, in my opinion!!!

As for the Gov overlooking an IAM election, at least we would know it to be a "semi honest" count, in my opinion....

 

[700UW]

Every election or CBA/strike vote that I have been a teller for has been conducted with 100% honesty.

Why don't you show the board some facts if you keep slinging accusations but dont have the gonads to back them up.

 

[AP Tech]

Just an opinion of someone who has voted in every election since becoming a member!! Sorry I apologize as a member I guess I am not entitled to an opinion......

 

[700UW]

An opinion is fine, but when you make an accusation, back it up.

Which apparently you can't.

 

[AP Tech]

There you go 700, I have edited my posts to include"in my opinion". I'm really sorry to ever have disagreed with you

To quote someone famous"Just the facts" h34r:

 

[fanlube]

It’s Up to You (Taken from Wired to the Prez)
District 143 and local representatives from around the country met in Minneapolis this week to discuss Northwest’s bankruptcy proposal and the upcoming ratification and legal process.

One critical question asked is whether the IAM has the right to strike if our contracts are abrogated. The IAM’s position is clear: if the Company has the legal right to seek self-help by imposing terms of employment, we have the right to withhold our services.

Northwest’s proposal is what it is, and rejecting the offer will not make it better. But it is important to fully understand the facts surrounding this vote in order to make an informed decision.

Rejection of the contract will lead to certain abrogation and only two possible outcomes. If IAM member strike, the carrier will likely liquidate.

If the proposal is rejected and there is no strike by IAM members, the Company will have the freedom to impose even harsher terms. This would destabilize the workforce and deter serious interest from qualified investors, which could also lead to liquidation.

I am sure that Northwest’s terms don’t sit well with you as they don’t with me, but what’s at stake here is bigger than the proposed terms. The question before you is whether anyone at Northwest will have a job in a month’s time.

It may be possible to find a job with better wages and benefits, and if you do you should seriously consider taking it. But even if you have another job option, the person working next to you may not.

It is important to consider the effects your vote will have on yourself, your family and your coworkers. Where we go from here is in the hands of the IAM membership, as it should be. The Machinists Union will fully support whatever decision the membership makes.

So much for the term Fighting Machnists, Another fine example of the IAM leadership endorsing concessions! I bet it passes by 57% any takers?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Check out www.pal1976.org

There are job postings there. That's interesting to me.......job postings on an IAM website for places like AAR Aircraft Services in Indianapolis, GPU Mechanics in PA, etc. Or are these places union - IAM?

 

[Awa Contract]

Come on 700 - talk about IAM desperation !!

And tell Dell that on my 1st and only attempted search because I had planes to fix I found information about IAM leadership (not at your local) being prosecuted for miss use of funds. That is what I meant by neither side live in a glass house.

 

[smmech]

Every election or CBA/strike vote that I have been a teller for has been conducted with 100% honesty.

Why don't you show the board some facts if you keep slinging accusations but dont have the gonads to back them up.

Every one??? You involved in this one?

UNION DEMOCRACY / MACHINISTS (IAM)
IAM Officials Agree to Rerun Northwest Airline Elections under DOL Supervision
Rather than continue to fight a lawsuit by the U.S. Dept. of Labor (DOL), officials of regional Dist. 143 of the Intl. Assn. of Machinists will hold another election for officers representing ground workers of Northwest Airlines. The DOL sued the union on Jan. 16 of this year, alleging violations of the members' right to free and fair elections under the Labor Mgmt. Reporting and Disclosure Act. The complaint resulted from an investigation by the Minneapolis branch of the U.S. Ofc. Of Labor-Mgmt. Standards into the district lodge's August 13, 2002 election. It revealed that six locals failed to hold an election, eleven locals failed to send out an election notice, and 25 locals sent out an inadequate election notice.

While admitting that local lodges failed to follow the IAM constitution and by-laws, secy.-treasurer John Massetti claimed that Dist. 143 had been "completely exonerated." The new election will be held on May 30, under DOL supervision. Christopher "Kip" Hedges, who lost to Robert De Pace last Aug., says he will run again. [St. Paul Pioneer Press, 4/22/03]

Or you mean after the elections were DOL supervised they were 100% honest...

oh I had to edit to add "Dont let the facts get in your way" longnose..

 

[delldude]

Come on 700 - talk about IAM desperation !!

And tell Dell that on my 1st and only attempted search because I had planes to fix I found information about IAM leadership (not at your local) being prosecuted for miss use of funds. That is what I meant by neither side live in a glass house.

hello?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

It’s Up to You (Taken from Wired to the Prez)
District 143 and local representatives from around the country met in Minneapolis this week to discuss Northwest’s bankruptcy proposal and the upcoming ratification and legal process.

One critical question asked is whether the IAM has the right to strike if our contracts are abrogated. The IAM’s position is clear: if the Company has the legal right to seek self-help by imposing terms of employment, we have the right to withhold our services.

Northwest’s proposal is what it is, and rejecting the offer will not make it better. But it is important to fully understand the facts surrounding this vote in order to make an informed decision.

Rejection of the contract will lead to certain abrogation and only two possible outcomes. If IAM member strike, the carrier will likely liquidate.

If the proposal is rejected and there is no strike by IAM members, the Company will have the freedom to impose even harsher terms. This would destabilize the workforce and deter serious interest from qualified investors, which could also lead to liquidation.

I am sure that Northwest’s terms don’t sit well with you as they don’t with me, but what’s at stake here is bigger than the proposed terms. The question before you is whether anyone at Northwest will have a job in a month’s time.

It may be possible to find a job with better wages and benefits, and if you do you should seriously consider taking it. But even if you have another job option, the person working next to you may not.

It is important to consider the effects your vote will have on yourself, your family and your coworkers. Where we go from here is in the hands of the IAM membership, as it should be. The Machinists Union will fully support whatever decision the membership makes.

So much for the term Fighting Machnists, Another fine example of the IAM leadership endorsing concessions! I bet it passes by 57% any takers?

The IAM Hotline number is 1-800-392-6554.

Interestingly enough, there is NO information in regards to US Airways. :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

 

[allunionsdeceive]

Every election or CBA/strike vote that I have been a teller for has been conducted with 100% honesty.

Why don't you show the board some facts if you keep slinging accusations but dont have the gonads to back them up.

YOU WRITING ON THIS BOARD SHOWS US NOTHING. WE CAN'T SEE YOUR FACT UNLESS YOU BRING THEM TO EVERYONE. SO STOP TALKING FACTS BECAUSE YOU CANT PROVE ANY OF THEM. THE IAM/IBT GO HAND IN HAND WITH DISHONESTY.

 

[Bird Doctor]

Every election or CBA/strike vote that I have been a teller for has been conducted with 100% honesty.

Why don't you show the board some facts if you keep slinging accusations but dont have the gonads to back them up.

譸
IAM negotiators fight for the best contracts
The Teamsters lowered the industry bar so much so that a bankrupt US Airways pushed for a contract that mirrored its America West pact. Even in
bankruptcy, IAM negotiators refused to sink to such lows. Right again you went LOWER...

http://www.pal1976.org/index.htm

 

[delldude]

譸
IAM negotiators fight for the best contracts
The Teamsters lowered the industry bar so much so that a bankrupt US Airways pushed for a contract that mirrored its America West pact. Even in
bankruptcy, IAM negotiators refused to sink to such lows. Right again you went LOWER...

http://www.pal1976.org/index.htm

see my pic on there birdman?