Holidays coming

[Doc]

Well !!! I have read some weird stuff before but this was a post I knew would get some peoples attention…..

When the company needed concessions to stay alive they came to us

When the company came back and said it wasn’t enough we gave again.

I don’t need to tell you about the thirds time.

Now when the company is back on its feet they come to us and say we don’t need to talk to you we have a contract. That’s just too bad.

Some of you in the corporate world just don’t understand these pieces of garbage we have to deal with.

It would be so easy to build some moral with a little give back. Give back double time and a couple of bucks wow what a concept to thanks for getting us threw all those hard times.

I for one am tired of all the BS and I am sure there are a few thousand out there that feel the same way.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS……………..

My understanding is that the company has been in meaningful talks at least with the IAM. Dunno about Pilots at this point but I would guess talks would perk up after an IAM deal is done.

For rampers, my understanding is that your company's position at this time is that pay may be increased to around $19+ hr at every station [no more class 2 pay], vacation added, double time restored, holidays added back, flight scope decreased so that more stations are covered, duration extended 2 years with additional 2% increases per year, and something about sick time that I couldn't figure out. These benefits apparently offered in some staggered way in which I'm a bit fuzzy on.

To be fair, this info was not confirmed and IMO 3rd hand but it is believable considering negotiations and where it came from. I believe a deal will get worked out sometime very early next year if not before Christmas. If not, then the IAM is very confident in its grievance getting contractual snapbacks anyways. That grievance I believe is scheduled tentatively around February although the determination duration could be anyone's guess.

The IAM's loyalist line though is that they walked out of negotiations and the company's offer was a joke. Unionspeak while the union is negotiating is how I interpret that. We'll see what happens and hopefully both sides can work things out so that the working men and women that gave so much to this company can be given a fair deal.

regards,

how much an ounce is that stuff your smokin

 

[Tim Nelson]

Well !!! I have read some weird stuff before but this was a post I knew would get some peoples attention…..

When the company needed concessions to stay alive they came to us

When the company came back and said it wasn’t enough we gave again.

I don’t need to tell you about the thirds time.

Now when the company is back on its feet they come to us and say we don’t need to talk to you we have a contract. That’s just too bad.

Some of you in the corporate world just don’t understand these pieces of garbage we have to deal with.

It would be so easy to build some moral with a little give back. Give back double time and a couple of bucks wow what a concept to thanks for getting us threw all those hard times.

I for one am tired of all the BS and I am sure there are a few thousand out there that feel the same way.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS……………..
how much an ounce is that stuff your smokin

Doc

The company is not saying, "you already have a contract". Both them and the union are in meaningful negotiations which IMO will result in a new contract sometime before February. I've been told that the union's grievance including all snapbacks has a 'very good' chance of winning if a fair contract can not be had over the table.


As far as Pilots, I'm sure they will get a good deal after all other groups are under a new transition contract.

Unfortunately for the ticket counter folks, the IBT/CWA waived their grievance for automatic recognition without a vote and will have to be 'stuck' with a lame bankruptcy tweaked contract.

Since the IAM doesn't let its members know what's going on except to say 'we are negotiating', I figured the info I provided under this thread may be useful to some.

regards,

 

[Doc]

I've been told that the union's grievance including all snapbacks has a 'very good' chance of winning if a fair contract can not be had over the table.
As far as Pilots, I'm sure they will get a good deal after all other groups are under a new transition contract.

Unfortunately for the ticket counter folks, the IBT/CWA waived their grievance for automatic recognition without a vote and will have to be 'stuck' with a lame bankruptcy tweaked contract.

Since the IAM doesn't let its members know what's going on except to say 'we are negotiating', I figured the info I provided under this thread may be useful to some.

regards,
[/quote]

The company walked away from the table. I don't think anyone is the driver seat. I wouldn't count your money.