BOS ALPA F/O Rep. Update - July 17, 2007

[700UW]

You don't seem to understand, it is all ready settled, you agreed to binding arbitration and it is over.

Game, set and match.

 

[EastUS]

I never met a group so willing to undermine the piloting profession......You're kinda drooling hypocrisy out of both sides of your mouth.

Seems that you've some degree of a perception disorder...or you've avoided any shaving mirrors for quite a awhile now Any group that's as intent about invalidating decades of time in service done by others as you AWA sorts are....sheesh. In addition? = The standard thought out there's that there shouldn't ever be any pay parity for your eastern "Union Brothers/Sisters" untill you AWA can start looting the left seats out here. Check out the latest "Town Hall" with one of your AWA "It's ALL about ME!!" morons with Wow!...ELEVEN WHOLE YEARS asking Parker about any notions of pay parity for the East, and even "Do you think the Nic award is fair"? BS. I'll leave "hypocrisy" to being in the mind of the beholder here.

My thinking's that Alpo's been doing nothing for the "piloting profession" for over twenty+ years, and the current mess is merely another gigantic failure as any semblance of a "Union". It's past time to dump Alpo.

 

[Phoenix]

You don't seem to understand, it is all ready settled, you agreed to binding arbitration and it is over.

Game, set and match.

... :unsure:

 

[Bear96]

I believe the best option to settle the Nicolau Award problem . . .

The Nicolau Award isn't the "problem." It is the solution to the real problem, which was the seniority merger, that East and West could not work out on their own.

Perhaps if East had done more to nip the real problem in the bud by being more realistic during negotiations with West, there would have been no need for this solution.

 

[Phoenix]

The Nicolau Award isn't the "problem." It is the solution to the real problem, which was the seniority merger, that East and West could not work out on their own.

Perhaps if East had done more to nip the real problem in the bud by being more realistic during negotiations with West, there would have been no need for this solution.

.. .. :unsure:

 

[700UW]

Is that the best you can do?

Two of those posts now instead of debating.

Grow up.

 

[Phoenix]

Is that the best you can do?

Two of those posts now instead of debating.

Grow up.

Debate? What is there to debate? Reality isn't debateable.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

You don't seem to understand, it is all ready settled, you agreed to binding arbitration and it is over.

Game, set and match.

I think that you may find out otherwise...

 

[Bear96]

Debate? What is there to debate? Reality isn't debateable.

That's very true.

The thing is, the Nicolau Award is reality.

East just doesn't realize it yet.

 

[USCREW]

That's very true.

The thing is, the Nicolau Award is reality.

East just doesn't realize it yet.

It's not a reality until it's implemented right?

 

[Bear96]

No. It exists today. You are correct in that it will have no practical effect until it is implemented. But it is reality.

It's kind of like . . . that item at the store that costs $X. If you never buy that item, you never have to pay the $X. Some day you might want it, in which case you will have to shell out the money (or steal). But even if you never want it, the "reality" is it still costs $X.

 

[USCREW]

No. It exists today. You are correct in that it will have no practical effect until it is implemented. But it is reality.

It's kind of like . . . that item at the store that costs $X. If you never buy that item, you never have to pay the $X. Some day you might want it, in which case you will have to shell out the money (or steal). But even if you never want it, the "reality" is it still costs $X.

Kinda like getting married and never consumating...it's just paper reality. So? What's the current value? Zippo so far...

And the item in the store costs zero to the consumer until he actually pays for it regardless of the sticker price.

 

[Bear96]

Kinda like getting married and never consumating...it's just paper reality. So? What's the current value? Zippo so far...

Yup, you prove my point. You pretty much encapsulate the East mentality refusing to deal with or accept reality.

To go with your example, say that while you are in this "not reality" marriage, your wife gets pregnant by someone else but doesn't want to 'fess up about her infidelity. Guess who is on the hook (in the vast majority of states, if not all) for supporting the kid?

And should you be the main breadwinner for decades of marriage but then decide to get divorced, guess who will get half the marital assets? How far do you think your claims of, "But the marriage wasn't 'reality' because we didn't have sex!" will get you?

Perhaps you unwittingly stumbled on a rather good comparison. If you didn't want the responsibilities of marriage, you shouldn't have agreed to enter into a legally binding marriage in the first place. But you did, so now you must live with the obligations and consequences of your choice. And unfortunately for you, while you can get a divorce, the courts will not just let you pretend the marriage never happened where child support or marital assets are involved.

 

[X-U]

Yup, you prove my point. You pretty much encapsulate the East mentality refusing to deal with or accept reality.

To go with your example, say that while you are in this "not reality" marriage, your wife gets pregnant by someone else but doesn't want to 'fess up about her infidelity. Guess who is on the hook for supporting the kid?

And should you be the main breadwinner for decades of marriage but then decide to get divorced, guess who will get half the marital assets? How far do you think your claims of, "But the marriage wasn't 'reality' because we didn't have sex!" will get you?

Perhaps you unwittingly stumbled on a rather good comparison. If you don't want the responsibilities of marriage, you shouldn't have agreed to enter into a legally binding marriage in the first place. But you did, so now you must live with the obligations and consequences of your choice.

How about a paternity test on"The Jerry Springer Show"?

 

[USCREW]

Yup, you prove my point. You pretty much encapsulate the East mentality refusing to deal with or accept reality.

To go with your example, say that while you are in this "not reality" marriage, your wife gets pregnant by someone else but doesn't want to 'fess up about her infidelity. Guess who is on the hook for supporting the kid?

And should you be the main breadwinner for decades of marriage but then decide to get divorced, guess who will get half the marital assets? How far do you think your claims of, "But the marriage wasn't 'reality' because we didn't have sex!" will get you?

Perhaps you unwittingly stumbled on a rather good comparison. If you don't want the responsibilities of marriage, you shouldn't have agreed to enter into a legally binding marriage in the first place. But you did, so now you must live with the obligations and consequences of your choice.

It sounds like she wins all the way around. She chooses not to consumate this marriage with YOU and has fun elsewhere, and YOU get to pay! You can't make anyone love you! You can't force yourself on an unwilling partner.