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It is the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945
Via wiki: The McCarran–Ferguson Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1011-1015, is a United States federal law that exempts insurance companies from the federal anti-trust legislation that applies to most businesses[1] and allows state law to regulate the business of insurance without federal government interference.
Congress could easily repeal that act in the health care bill.
You are a fool of you believe that. You Glen Beck lovers would be all over that as a federal grab of states' rights.
Oh?? maybe that's why GOP is pushing for tort reform and opening up competition across state lines?
Funny your clowns want no part of either....Wonder why that would be......
Funny too, your snubs on what have the GOP offered to HC reform has been put down quite regularly by Pelosi and Reid.
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No, you are the biggest fool for saying that, because nobody is opposing it as you say via "federal grab of states' rights". Get a grip and quit making crap up.
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Do a little wider google search. You'll find much more than this one article.
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Really? Such as? If you are going to make a statement like that, then why not back it up?
“Ontario man featured in U.S. health-care debate,†The Toronto Star, By Tim Harper (February 22, 2008) http://www.thestar.com/Article/305918
“Taking Ontario’s health monopoly to court,†The National Post, By John Carpay (May 3, 2007) http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.htm...4d-35f03f0afa66
“Patients suing province over wait times,†The Toronto Star, By Tanya Talaga (September 6, 2007) http://www.thestar.com/News/article/253664
“Londoner Travels to Yugoslavia For Cancer Treatment,†A-Channel News http://www.achannel.ca/london/news_40168.aspx
“You can’t fight the hospital; Man forced to wait a year for skull surgery had no official advocate,†The Toronto Star, By Tanya Talaga and Robert Cribb (May 22, 2007) http://www.thestar.com/article/216280
“A jaw-dropping wait time for surgery; While people who need new hips or knees get action within nine months, jaw joint patients can wait more than two years,†The Globe and Mail, By Andre Picard, (May 22, 2007) http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...tory/special…
“Teen dies after appendix ruptures,†The Edmonton Sun, By Bill Kaufman (April 19, 2007) http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Alberta/20...19/4078502.html
“Cancer drug has OK - it just isn’t available,†The Montreal Gazette, By Charlie Fidelman (March 27, 2006) http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...be-42cd-8e0a…
And since you somehow think that the Canadian health care system is flawless in our current date, chew on this...
OHIP cost cutting complicates cancer treatment
OHIP covers pre-approved IL-2 treatments in the U.S. for Ontario residents who need it, but Hunt has been waiting to get the life-saving drug for two months….
First of all, the fact that Canada is sending its patients to the U.S. for proper care should be enough of an indication of the failures of their system – where will Canadians go if the U.S. gets socialized health care? Second, this story demonstrates the red tape and government control of where people can seek treatment, which is based on cost, not necessarily on better care or patient comfort.
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And we are 3 weeks away from it being 2010, and you're citing articles from 2006 thru 2008.
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Did you derive that thinking from your "little wider google search" that you haven't yet backed up with any proof?
You still think it is somehow better now? Really?
Do you think the problems with nationalized health coverage just came to be, in what in 2009? FYI: Its been happening for decades!
U.K. Cancer Death Rate is 38% Higher Than In U.S.
In 2008, Britain had a cancer death rate 0.25% while the United States had a rate of only 0.18%. The UK cancer death rate was 38% higher than in the United States. In Canada, the cancer death rate is 16% higher than in the United States.
Video: A True Tale of Canadian Health Care: Why some patients need to go to the U.S. for surgery
3 Years wait for Hip Surgery, flew to US to have surgery within 2 weeks.
What Canadians Want You To Know About Their Health Care System
I could bury you up to your eyeballs with the facts and you still wouldn't see it. Your demise, not mine.
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Ask yourself this:
Why would the creator of the Canadian Health System decry it an utter failure?
What would drive a man like Castonguay to reconsider his long-held beliefs? Try a health care system so overburdened that hundreds of thousands in need of medical attention wait for care, any care; a system where people in towns like Norwalk, Ontario, participate in lotteries to win appointments with the local family doctor.
Years ago, Canadians touted their health care system as the best in the world; today, Canadian health care stands in ruinous shape.
Back in the 1960s, Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec—then the largest and most affluent in the country—adopt government-administered health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.
The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were implemented from coast to coast.
Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in "crisis."
"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay.
But now he prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice." :blink:
Castonguay advocates contracting out services to the private sector, going so far as suggesting that public hospitals rent space during off-hours to entrepreneurial doctors. He supports co-pays for patients who want to see physicians.
Castonguay, the man who championed public health insurance in Canada, now urges for the legalization of private health insurance.
Why would the creator of the Canadian Health System decry it an utter failure?
What would drive a man like Castonguay to reconsider his long-held beliefs? Try a health care system so overburdened that hundreds of thousands in need of medical attention wait for care, any care; a system where people in towns like Norwalk, Ontario, participate in lotteries to win appointments with the local family doctor.
Years ago, Canadians touted their health care system as the best in the world; today, Canadian health care stands in ruinous shape.
Back in the 1960s, Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec—then the largest and most affluent in the country—adopt government-administered health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.
The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were implemented from coast to coast.
Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in "crisis."
"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay.
But now he prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice." :blink:
Castonguay advocates contracting out services to the private sector, going so far as suggesting that public hospitals rent space during off-hours to entrepreneurial doctors. He supports co-pays for patients who want to see physicians.
Castonguay, the man who championed public health insurance in Canada, now urges for the legalization of private health insurance.
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You obviously have no clue about the subject at hand.
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Do a search for US insurance horror stories. Make sure you brink a blankie and a meal. No one has done a serious comparison (at least not that I have found) of the various systems of health care.
No one really knows how many people in the US just go without care and just suffer the pain or even die. No one knows how many people in CA have to wait and for what and for how long in comparison to their US counter parts. No one has looked at whether the people in CA who had to wait would have been in the same boat here in the US because they couldn't have afforded their own health insurance, deductibles or to go else where.
WHO did a study and we were no where close to the top.
As tort reform and interstate competition. Tort reform is a double edged sword. If you put a cap on the financial penalties then there is less of an incentive to do right. Remember the internal memos from Ford on the Pinto? They figured it would be cheaper to pay the legal fees than correct the danger to the Pinto. Had the legal penalties been capped, Ford would have been right. I have no interest in that happening in the medical profession.
As for competition, if they cannot/will not compete intrastate, what possible reason could anyone have that it will happen interstate. Granted it could not hurt to lift the ban but I have no hope that anything will change. Insurance companies have a huge about of money and leverage to throw around. They are making huge amounts of money and I seriously doubt they will give in without a fight. Also, just because they 'could' compete does not mean that they will.
Something else to consider. More and more people are traveling abroad for elective and non-elective surgery. People are able to travel to India, Singapore, Costa Rica to name a few and have the same procedure done for pennies on the dollar. he are treated by US trained doctors and are in 5 star accommodations. If we are not careful, our health care will go the way of our steel and automotive industry.
KC, with all due respect, whether the stories are from 2000, 2006 or 2009 I do not think matters. A tiger does not tend to change it's stripes over night. The same stores that happened 10 years ago are probably still happening. Given the world economy they may be worse. How ever take heart in the fact that the horror stories in the US are keeping pace with anything the rest of the world has to offer.
No one really knows how many people in the US just go without care and just suffer the pain or even die. No one knows how many people in CA have to wait and for what and for how long in comparison to their US counter parts. No one has looked at whether the people in CA who had to wait would have been in the same boat here in the US because they couldn't have afforded their own health insurance, deductibles or to go else where.
WHO did a study and we were no where close to the top.
As tort reform and interstate competition. Tort reform is a double edged sword. If you put a cap on the financial penalties then there is less of an incentive to do right. Remember the internal memos from Ford on the Pinto? They figured it would be cheaper to pay the legal fees than correct the danger to the Pinto. Had the legal penalties been capped, Ford would have been right. I have no interest in that happening in the medical profession.
As for competition, if they cannot/will not compete intrastate, what possible reason could anyone have that it will happen interstate. Granted it could not hurt to lift the ban but I have no hope that anything will change. Insurance companies have a huge about of money and leverage to throw around. They are making huge amounts of money and I seriously doubt they will give in without a fight. Also, just because they 'could' compete does not mean that they will.
Something else to consider. More and more people are traveling abroad for elective and non-elective surgery. People are able to travel to India, Singapore, Costa Rica to name a few and have the same procedure done for pennies on the dollar. he are treated by US trained doctors and are in 5 star accommodations. If we are not careful, our health care will go the way of our steel and automotive industry.
KC, with all due respect, whether the stories are from 2000, 2006 or 2009 I do not think matters. A tiger does not tend to change it's stripes over night. The same stores that happened 10 years ago are probably still happening. Given the world economy they may be worse. How ever take heart in the fact that the horror stories in the US are keeping pace with anything the rest of the world has to offer.
