Gun Threads - Merged

[EastUS1]

Like "Guns don't kill people"?

 
Police records prove that even a socket wrench can be used to bash in a skull when anyone chose to use it in such fashion. A tool is only a tool.  I'm sure we're all still eagerly awaiting any/all reports of the very first time some "gun" got up on it's own and went on a killing spree....So? Hmm...perhaps liberals are a far more "religious" lot than I'd previously imagined....maybe you strangely believe that inanimate objects/wrenches/firearms/whatever can somehow become inherently "evil" and even "demonically possessed"?

 

[EastUS1]

.....
The Bottom Line here:
 
ifly2: "I was not trained to fight" (and can even imagine "street fights" and a few bruises to be other than laughably noteworthy)...yet you (like any standard-issue-liberal) can always be counted on to purely fantasize yourself somehow an expert regardless.

 
Ifly2:"I was not trained to fight". Without any real or at all actual knowledge there then, it logically follows that your later "Simple observation gives lie to the "programming" you succombed to, and then spread." fully applies to you....Period.

 

[EastUS1]

...... why are so many people concerned with being able to carry their guns around with them in order to defend themselves?

Isn't the whole idea was to be able to kill the bad guys (with the gun...) before they kill the good guys?

 
Try to (however feebly) at least attempt to connect those two supposed "thoughts" together and then get back to us all.

 

[Ifly2]

But guns don't kill...

Circlular pretzel logic

I wasn't trained to fight in combat

Most sailors aren't

Doesn't mean I haven't been in a few fights

Or have a single thing to do with Dell's bs videos

 

[Ifly2]

Btw,
No one said any guns got up and did anything ontheir own...

Yet anoer Straw Man up in Flames

 

[EastUS1]

I wasn't trained to fight in combat

Doesn't mean I haven't been in a few fights

 
It would seem your definition of "fights" is a bit on the lightweight side then. No harm/no foul I suppose...and DO feel perfectly free to continue lecturing all concerned about lethal weapons and the proper use of them regardless. "I wasn't trained to fight in combat" certainly qualifies you as an expert on such things, and I've no doubt that "a few fights" likely promotes you to being the most ferocious liberal around in any case.

 

[Ifly2]

Never did that either

Read much?

Truly hilarious, you are

The combat veterans I grew up around, real men, never talked about it.

They had a name for those who did, too

 

[EastUS1]

Neber did that either

Read much?

Truly hilarious, you are

 
Well, "neber" is probably a long time.
 
"Read much?" A few books here and there along the way. No doubt nothing to compare though.
 
"Truly hilarious, you are" Thank you Yoda. I try.

 

[Hackman]

Not an F/A but you know all about the APFA and it's former and current leadersship. Kinda odd for a non F/A.

 

[EastUS1]

The combat veterans I grew up around, real men, never talked about it.

They had a name for those who did, too

 
"The combat veterans I grew up around, real men, never talked about it." At least you claim some knowledge of "real men", which is it's self rare for a liberal, but is that offered by way of "I knew a guy once, so I'm 'tough' myself?" The only question I have there is why you would arrogantly imagine "real men" would ever share the most trying and extremely personal experiences with you? Perhaps your "street fights" failed to sufficiently impress them so's to invite you into their thoughts? Hint: I'm guessing so.
 
Since you note yourself as not-so-much as even "trained for combat", but now proudly tout "real men" who were as acquaintances: Might one further assume that by your just-posted "muy macho" BS-by-association that you are thus not a "real man" yourself by even your own definition? Might it be fair to assume your personal expertise in the proper use of weapons to be equally a product of pure fantasy?
 
Sigh...You really do make this all too easy.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Cut him off.

 

[EastUS1]

Cut him off.

 
Let's keep this appropriately simple for you dog. Again: Try to put the following two "thoughts" together and then get back to us all:
 

...... why are so many people concerned with being able to carry their guns around with them in order to defend themselves?

Isn't the whole idea was to be able to kill the bad guys (with the gun...) before they kill the good guys?

 

[delldude]

But guns don't kill...

Circlular pretzel logic

I wasn't trained to fight in combat

Most sailors aren't

Doesn't mean I haven't been in a few fights

Or have a single thing to do with Dell's bs videos

 
So what was your MOS?
 

Btw,
No one said any guns got up and did anything ontheir own...

Yet anoer Straw Man up in Flames

 
I don't know about that.....I walked by my gun cabinet last night and heard      "Psst.....we got time to kill, let's party"
 

Hell, if guns don't kill people, why are so many people concerned with being able to carry their guns around with them in order to defend themselves?

Isn't the whole idea was to be able to kill the bad guys (with the gun...) before they kill the good guys?

 
For one thing, many law enforcement heads have advised citizens that you are on your own until they get there.......which more often than not, is a long time.......if one has to fight for his own life.............go figure.

 

[Ifly2]

Didn't say that either
Comprehend English..?

It isn't about me anyway, I'm not even The Liberal you are so afraid of

None of the rest of Your moronic ridiculous right buddies here even served, never even took the oath, or made it through something as simple as boot camp, yet they are "given" free reign to play macho tough guy with other peoples' lives.

You use liberal as a perjorative.

That makes you a moron.

Liberals founded this country, and spearheaded and fought and sacrificed to bring about every major social change that improved the lives of its people and made it great.

Conservatives resisted all those same changes, including independence from England.

Modern so-called conservatives like youself pretend to be the defenders of the empire, when in reality you are in pracice every bit the socialist that the most vociferous liberal is, an while mindlessly repeating lies from profit-driven politically motivated yellow journalists.

WFB would be ashamed.

As would the men I knew growing up who fought their way across the Pacific and flew bombers over Germany. They talked amongst themselves, yes. Bragging on the interweb? Beneath them. The Nam guys I knew were much the same.

 

[Ifly2]

Dude,

Obviously guns don't kill by themselves

That Bumper Sticker is yet another Straw Scardy Crow Man, and you know it

Obviously gund do, or can be used to, kill

Their entire reason for being

Running around saying "Guns don't kill, people do" is stupid hyperbole

A West-Pac and workups in Airframes, and a little over 3 years of Air Traffic Control.

81-86, not any folks were engaged in combat. A coupke of F-14's over the Gulf of Sydra, iirc.

(Which I may not, and am not going to check...)