Good job Bob Owens

[eolesen]

And this is why I have both 700UW and Josh on ignore....

 

[AANOTOK]

And when can I officially tell you "hold outs" I TOLD YOU SO that it WILL BE FCFS!
 
I'll start with 700. You have been pretty anal about it won't happen because it's contractual to some and even called many of us AAers clueless ...and john john, give up yet??

 

[Jager]

A few notes from the AA 2014 Shareholders Meeting



 



 


Updated On: Jun 05, 2014

 


Notes from the AA 2014 Shareholders meeting provided by Local 591 member Santos. Agenda also attached.
 
 
Santos (who went on his own time) covered it pretty well.
 
 


















Doug Parker opens 2014 shareholders meeting announcing the merger between US Air and American is complete. Introduces the board of directors and thanks Tom Horton (who was not present) for his service during the merger.
 
 

Ray Rogers, a famous Labor activist, had his first of many interruptions at this point. Rogers quoted Judge Kendall by stating "If you would look up bad labor relations in the dictionary, you would have an American Airlines logo besides it." He added that in 2012 Parker made $18 million, Horton $19 million, and Garton $10 million. Yet, Envoy pilots were offered a contract which started them at $23,000 and capped at $38,000. They've had no raises since 2004.
 
 

Parker rebutted that AA needed competitive costs with others and commuters were safe.
 
 

Rogers snapped back saying that AA should be called McDonalds Air. Pointing to Parker, he said "you have not justified that salary and what you are doing to the American public."
 
 

Gail Dunham, a retiree, spoke to the board of directors saying they would not be happy if they lost their travel benefits.
 
 

After Parker read the proposal to appoint KPMG as the independent accounting firm, Rogers protested again, calling them crooks. KPMG is slightly better than Ernst & Young, but still collects huge sums for fraud and criminal activities and creating tax havens. Rogers said AA should be using smaller auditors.
 
 

Parker announced integration is going well. The combined AA/US Air is #1 in the East, #1 in the middle of the country, and #3 in the West Coast. He touted the $340 million made in the 1st quarter.
 
 

While Parker spoke about service he was interrupted by an unidentified speaker in the audience, who mentioned that he pays for more legroom but repeatedly is denied the seat. "It is a contract and it should be provided." Parker replied, "if you paid for it, you deserve it."
 
 

Parker continued with the company performance citing the 500 airplanes on order; 83 will be delivered this year, 76 next year. The stock has risen 64% since its inception.
 
 

The CEO outlined the plan for moving forward:
 

1-Focus on customers
 

2-Be an industry leader
 

3-Engage our team members "compensate them well," Parker said.
 

4-Provide a return for our investors
 

5-Look to the future
 
 

Parker opened up questions from the audience and Rogers once again grabbed the microphone. He criticized the company for taking away flight benefits from retirees. He chided the board of directors for their free travel on AA; "you can not afford to buy tickets?" Then went on a marvelous tirade which ended with Rogers saying, "the board rubber stamps greed."
 
 

Gail Dunham again spoke on the loss of travel benefits saying retirees will fly standby after foreign exchange students. She also added that all the friends of the D2s which have immediate travel benefits will be a security risk.
 
 

Parker said the blending of 2 different travel programs was difficult. AA had a 1st come 1st served while US used seniority. AA was the only airline to prioritize the retirees equally with active employees. "No possible way to make everybody happy." US Air workers have similar complaints about giving up the seniority for travel.
 
 

Don Smith and Carol Ryker also spoke about the retirees demotion on the travel benefits.
 
 

An investor asked when will AA see the $1 billion in savings promised in the merger. Parker remarked savings will exceed $1.5 billion. That target might have been reached, but $500 million was spent on raising Labor costs.
 
 

Bob Owens, Local 591 Treasurer, then rose and refuted AA president Scott Kirby's comments in the media regarding improved Labor relations. Owens said the Labor relations were horrible, and couldn't improve since we were "worst in the industry." He recommended "throwing some of that $500 million our way." He also commented on the prolonged contract talks with the IAM, and the possibility they might strike.
 
 

Parker answered that Kirby's comments were taken out of context, and admitted the company had a lot a work to do on Labor relations. In regards to the IAM contract, the CEO said both sides have been negotiating and the NMB hasn't declared an impasse.
 
 

Owens quipped that the NMB makes political decisions.
  
 

Parker tiring of Owens dogged cross examination stated he didn't speak for the IAM.
 
 


After fielding one more inquiry from the audience (a supportive business man irked by Ray Rogers blasts), Parker closed the shareholders meeting claiming the board of directors had to leave. This as shareholders still had questions, including TWU members.
 
Webcast link-   http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/5qanysbb/lan/en
 



Download:
 AA Anual Meeting of Stockholders agenda 2014.pdf 

 

[Overspeed]

A few notes from the AA 2014 Shareholders Meeting     Updated On: Jun 05, 2014
Notes from the AA 2014 Shareholders meeting provided by Local 591 member Santos. Agenda also attached.
 
 
Santos (who went on his own time) covered it pretty well.
 
 


















Doug Parker opens 2014 shareholders meeting announcing the merger between US Air and American is complete. Introduces the board of directors and thanks Tom Horton (who was not present) for his service during the merger.
 
 

Ray Rogers, a famous Labor activist, had his first of many interruptions at this point. Rogers quoted Judge Kendall by stating "If you would look up bad labor relations in the dictionary, you would have an American Airlines logo besides it." He added that in 2012 Parker made $18 million, Horton $19 million, and Garton $10 million. Yet, Envoy pilots were offered a contract which started them at $23,000 and capped at $38,000. They've had no raises since 2004.
 
 

Parker rebutted that AA needed competitive costs with others and commuters were safe.
 
 

Rogers snapped back saying that AA should be called McDonalds Air. Pointing to Parker, he said "you have not justified that salary and what you are doing to the American public."
 
 

Gail Dunham, a retiree, spoke to the board of directors saying they would not be happy if they lost their travel benefits.
 
 

After Parker read the proposal to appoint KPMG as the independent accounting firm, Rogers protested again, calling them crooks. KPMG is slightly better than Ernst & Young, but still collects huge sums for fraud and criminal activities and creating tax havens. Rogers said AA should be using smaller auditors.
 
 

Parker announced integration is going well. The combined AA/US Air is #1 in the East, #1 in the middle of the country, and #3 in the West Coast. He touted the $340 million made in the 1st quarter.
 
 

While Parker spoke about service he was interrupted by an unidentified speaker in the audience, who mentioned that he pays for more legroom but repeatedly is denied the seat. "It is a contract and it should be provided." Parker replied, "if you paid for it, you deserve it."
 
 

Parker continued with the company performance citing the 500 airplanes on order; 83 will be delivered this year, 76 next year. The stock has risen 64% since its inception.
 
 

The CEO outlined the plan for moving forward:
 

1-Focus on customers
 

2-Be an industry leader
 

3-Engage our team members "compensate them well," Parker said.
 

4-Provide a return for our investors
 

5-Look to the future
 
 

Parker opened up questions from the audience and Rogers once again grabbed the microphone. He criticized the company for taking away flight benefits from retirees. He chided the board of directors for their free travel on AA; "you can not afford to buy tickets?" Then went on a marvelous tirade which ended with Rogers saying, "the board rubber stamps greed."
 
 

Gail Dunham again spoke on the loss of travel benefits saying retirees will fly standby after foreign exchange students. She also added that all the friends of the D2s which have immediate travel benefits will be a security risk.
 
 

Parker said the blending of 2 different travel programs was difficult. AA had a 1st come 1st served while US used seniority. AA was the only airline to prioritize the retirees equally with active employees. "No possible way to make everybody happy." US Air workers have similar complaints about giving up the seniority for travel.
 
 

Don Smith and Carol Ryker also spoke about the retirees demotion on the travel benefits.
 
 

An investor asked when will AA see the $1 billion in savings promised in the merger. Parker remarked savings will exceed $1.5 billion. That target might have been reached, but $500 million was spent on raising Labor costs.
 
 

Bob Owens, Local 591 Treasurer, then rose and refuted AA president Scott Kirby's comments in the media regarding improved Labor relations. Owens said the Labor relations were horrible, and couldn't improve since we were "worst in the industry." He recommended "throwing some of that $500 million our way." He also commented on the prolonged contract talks with the IAM, and the possibility they might strike.
 
 

Parker answered that Kirby's comments were taken out of context, and admitted the company had a lot a work to do on Labor relations. In regards to the IAM contract, the CEO said both sides have been negotiating and the NMB hasn't declared an impasse.
 
 

Owens quipped that the NMB makes political decisions.
  
 

Parker tiring of Owens dogged cross examination stated he didn't speak for the IAM.
 
 


After fielding one more inquiry from the audience (a supportive business man irked by Ray Rogers blasts), Parker closed the shareholders meeting claiming the board of directors had to leave. This as shareholders still had questions, including TWU members.
 
Webcast link-   http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/5qanysbb/lan/en
 



Download:
 AA Anual Meeting of Stockholders agenda 2014.pdf 
 

 
Was Bob on UB, UBC, or UBP when he was giving Parker crap? I'm sure Parker enjoys paying local 591's officer salaries for disrupting shareholder meetings.

 

[Chuck Schalk]

 
Was Bob on UB, UBC, or UBP when he was giving Parker crap? I'm sure Parker enjoys paying local 591's officer salaries for disrupting shareholder meetings.

you just can't help yourself can you........  another fine statement by overspun

 

[Vortilon]

 
Was Bob on UB, UBC, or UBP when he was giving Parker crap? I'm sure Parker enjoys paying local 591's officer salaries for disrupting shareholder meetings.

 
 
Do you think that Bob offended Doug.  Poor Doug was stuttering worse than Barak Obama with a broken teleprompter.  He couldn't lie fast enough.
 
Figures, a TWU supporter would be more concerned about what type of union status our local rep was on. 

 

[Overspeed]

you just can't help yourself can you........  another fine statement by overspun

 
Just wondering when Bob will stop playing all sides. He is paid half by AA, and half by the TWU but actively supports the ideals of AMFA. Talk about conflicted.
 
Based on the below text he used to stand with you and AMFA. I guess that didn't pay enough for his "loyalty".
 
 
³The addition of American Airline mechanics will continue to give AMFA the
momentum it needs to reach its goal of uniting all the mechanics in the
industry,² says Bob Owens, an American mechanic at JFK and an Associate
Member of AMFA.

Owens had been the elected Treasurer of TWU Local 562 until last year when
the International removed him and President Chuck Schalk from office - Schalk
for refusing to sign a loyalty oath and Owens for his public criticisms of
the International and the TWU contract.

 

 

[Overspeed]

 
 
Do you think that Bob offended Doug.  Poor Doug was stuttering worse than Barak Obama with a broken teleprompter.  He couldn't lie fast enough.
 
Figures, a TWU supporter would be more concerned about what type of union status our local rep was on. 

Oh I am sure he offended Doug. He is probably wondering why he is paying $500K in wages for when he could get Owens criticisms for free.

 

[swamt]

you just can't help yourself can you........  another fine statement by overspun

Let him post Chuck.  Trust me, he's doing a great job.  He is one of the best TWU supporters posting in favor of AMFA I have seen in a long time.  Let him go, let him keep posting, he really is doing a great job for the mechanics at AA...

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

 
Just wondering when Bob will stop playing all sides. He is paid half by AA, and half by the TWU but actively supports the ideals of AMFA. Talk about conflicted.
 
Based on the below text he used to stand with you and AMFA. I guess that didn't pay enough for his "loyalty".
 
 
³The addition of American Airline mechanics will continue to give AMFA the
momentum it needs to reach its goal of uniting all the mechanics in the
industry,² says Bob Owens, an American mechanic at JFK and an Associate
Member of AMFA.

Owens had been the elected Treasurer of TWU Local 562 until last year when
the International removed him and President Chuck Schalk from office - Schalk
for refusing to sign a loyalty oath and Owens for his public criticisms of
the International and the TWU contract.
 

 

But he still manages to get re-elected
You are a poster child for the twu's  ignorance keep up the good work

 

[737823]

Bob,
What is your perspective on the USAIR management? Is the new regime better or worse than before the merger?  I know too never supported the merger.
 
Josh

 

[Overspeed]

But he still manages to get re-elected
You are a poster child for the twu's  ignorance keep up the good work

 
Yes, a majority of 25% of the line membership voted in Bob. Hardly a mandate. More a reflection of the apathy of the silent majority on how the TWU Int'l is not giving us leadership from the top. Maybe GP's letter to Lombardo will get him to realize the AMFA guys are really running 591 in to the ground to drive members to want out of the TWU. 591 seems like they are purposefully mismanaging the local, bad mouthing the CBA, and misinforming the membership to make the TWU look bad.

 

[Vortilon]

 
Yes, a majority of 25% of the line membership voted in Bob. Hardly a mandate. More a reflection of the apathy of the silent majority on how the TWU Int'l is not giving us leadership from the top. Maybe GP's letter to Lombardo will get him to realize the AMFA guys are really running 591 in to the ground to drive members to want out of the TWU. 591 seems like they are purposefully mismanaging the local, bad mouthing the CBA, and misinforming the membership to make the TWU look bad.

 
 
You're funny, even if what you said were true, how would you explain the previous 25 years of living in the suck with TWU representation?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

OverSpeed; Bob is one person. Just because he does not agree with the TWU does not mean he can single handedly enact the changes he supports. All he can really do is communicate his stance on issues, educate the membership, and ask for support. I have found nothing wrong with anything Bob has said or done. You claim Bob plays both sides of the fence, I CLAIM you are a TWU cheerleader. I CLAIM that you do nothing constructive. All I ever see out of you is stagnation and negativity.  You are a one trick pony and frankly your show is getting old. 

Seems like Overspeed never took my advice (given 2 months ago). One trick pony indeed.
 
[SIZE=10.5pt]I have butted heads with Bob on here before but, I can honestly say at the end of the day I would vote for him.  I cannot think of anything more definitive to say then that.[/SIZE]

 

[Chuck Schalk]

 
Yes, a majority of 25% of the line membership voted in Bob. Hardly a mandate. More a reflection of the apathy of the silent majority on how the TWU Int'l is not giving us leadership from the top. Maybe GP's letter to Lombardo will get him to realize the AMFA guys are really running 591 in to the ground to drive members to want out of the TWU. 591 seems like they are purposefully mismanaging the local, bad mouthing the CBA, and misinforming the membership to make the TWU look bad.

How do you explain the TWU ATD mismanaging our careers over the last 30 years? As far as the TWU looking bad, they do that pretty much all on their own.