Checking it Out
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- Apr 3, 2003
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I remember when the Amfa wannabes here at AA were bragging about the leading contract. Only difference it was on another discussion board. I pointed out the poor language Amfa negotiated and the 100% farm out limits! the cap of 38% was just a tip on the iceberg. With the FM1 and 2 a joke now and the continued Outsourcing of work the predictions are coming true and will continue!!!!
Now Amfa has given away defined pension at Alaska currently working on it at United ands is in stagnant negotiations at several other carriers!!! The writing is on the wall!!!
Name: A former IAM Rep.
Email:
Employer: NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Saturday July 24, 2004
Time: 09:22:37 AM
Comments
I have a story that I think the members at NWA will finally listen too. It was the day of the representation election in November 1998. I was out in DC for the count with Jeff Doerr, Clay Balous, Mary Sansom, Trent Larson, Rich Lehmen and several other IAM representatives that I can't remember at this moment. Anyways, after AMFA won, we went back to our hotels gathered our things and headed to the Airport to come home to MSP. We all boarded the flight and were sitting right behind the First Class Bulkhead. Just before the doors closed Doug McKeon and Gary Soma from NWA Labor Relations boarded and sat right in front of us in First Class. After take off McKeon waved at Jeff Doerr to come up front and sit by him, I went up with him. McKeon, offered his condolences at seemed sincere about it. Then what happened next is really interesting. Remember, this was November 1998. McKeon said to Jeff "Do you have any more of those buttons?" Jeff said, "What buttons?" McKeon said, "You know those Remember the T/A buttons?" Jeff said, "Doug, we didn't make those buttons AMFA did." Then after a pause McKeon said, "Well, I guess it really doesn't matter who made them but if I was you I'd get my hands on a pile of them." Jeff asked why and McKeon said, "Because in two or three years from now they should be real popular again." At the time it didn't register with me where he was going with it but three years later it sure did. It was 2001 and AMFA was just finishing up our contract. Three years later just like McKeon said. Then I read the contract that AMFA was bragging about and all I could think about was how much better that the IAM's 1998 T/A was than what AMFA brought back. But it was no use trying to tell anyone that this contract was going to cost us thousands upon thousands of jobs, because Delle and all the amfanuts were out there bragging it up as Industry Leading. When I questioned the Farm Out language that was in this contract Delle told me, "The IAM didn't have any Farm out language, we have negotiated a Cap for you and it's Iron Clad Language." "We even have a Iron Clad No-Layoff provision for everyone in this agreement ", Delle said. Well, Delle was wrong, or a liar and Doug McKeon was right on the money, it was three years later and all I could do was Remember the T/A. It's 6 years later and I still Remember the T/A and it looks even better to me today than it ever has! This is the honest truth and factual. Thanks for the time and space webmaster.
Remember this comment in April;
MINNEAPOLIS -- Northwest Airlines Corp. wants to eliminate another 1, 000 jobs held by mechanics, custodians and cleaners and give substantial pay cuts to those who remain on the payroll, an airline union said Monday.
Only a fool will follow the path to destruction that Amfa is causing in the Industry! Many have woke up and have understood! Will you be one of the last to see this?
I understand it takes some longer than others!! The smart choice will be to go back to your toolbox and hope Amfa never makes it in!! If I have one member I've had several dozen come up and say the same thing.
Now Amfa has given away defined pension at Alaska currently working on it at United ands is in stagnant negotiations at several other carriers!!! The writing is on the wall!!!
Name: A former IAM Rep.
Email:
Employer: NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Saturday July 24, 2004
Time: 09:22:37 AM
Comments
I have a story that I think the members at NWA will finally listen too. It was the day of the representation election in November 1998. I was out in DC for the count with Jeff Doerr, Clay Balous, Mary Sansom, Trent Larson, Rich Lehmen and several other IAM representatives that I can't remember at this moment. Anyways, after AMFA won, we went back to our hotels gathered our things and headed to the Airport to come home to MSP. We all boarded the flight and were sitting right behind the First Class Bulkhead. Just before the doors closed Doug McKeon and Gary Soma from NWA Labor Relations boarded and sat right in front of us in First Class. After take off McKeon waved at Jeff Doerr to come up front and sit by him, I went up with him. McKeon, offered his condolences at seemed sincere about it. Then what happened next is really interesting. Remember, this was November 1998. McKeon said to Jeff "Do you have any more of those buttons?" Jeff said, "What buttons?" McKeon said, "You know those Remember the T/A buttons?" Jeff said, "Doug, we didn't make those buttons AMFA did." Then after a pause McKeon said, "Well, I guess it really doesn't matter who made them but if I was you I'd get my hands on a pile of them." Jeff asked why and McKeon said, "Because in two or three years from now they should be real popular again." At the time it didn't register with me where he was going with it but three years later it sure did. It was 2001 and AMFA was just finishing up our contract. Three years later just like McKeon said. Then I read the contract that AMFA was bragging about and all I could think about was how much better that the IAM's 1998 T/A was than what AMFA brought back. But it was no use trying to tell anyone that this contract was going to cost us thousands upon thousands of jobs, because Delle and all the amfanuts were out there bragging it up as Industry Leading. When I questioned the Farm Out language that was in this contract Delle told me, "The IAM didn't have any Farm out language, we have negotiated a Cap for you and it's Iron Clad Language." "We even have a Iron Clad No-Layoff provision for everyone in this agreement ", Delle said. Well, Delle was wrong, or a liar and Doug McKeon was right on the money, it was three years later and all I could do was Remember the T/A. It's 6 years later and I still Remember the T/A and it looks even better to me today than it ever has! This is the honest truth and factual. Thanks for the time and space webmaster.
Remember this comment in April;
MINNEAPOLIS -- Northwest Airlines Corp. wants to eliminate another 1, 000 jobs held by mechanics, custodians and cleaners and give substantial pay cuts to those who remain on the payroll, an airline union said Monday.
Only a fool will follow the path to destruction that Amfa is causing in the Industry! Many have woke up and have understood! Will you be one of the last to see this?
I understand it takes some longer than others!! The smart choice will be to go back to your toolbox and hope Amfa never makes it in!! If I have one member I've had several dozen come up and say the same thing.