Furloughs = Dealbreaker

[USAirBoyA330]

kt,
Your right and I would not be surprised by more furloughs but, with the ITD bid for 200 people and the unusual amount of retirements this summer.....things might be a wash.

 

[savyinvestor]

I can't believe for one moment that the IAM will open their contract to eliminate their jobs. This is a BIG problem and I see no solution. Savy

 

[Phantom Fixer]

I can't believe for one moment that the IAM will open their contract to eliminate their jobs. This is a BIG problem and I see no solution. Savy

I see a solution....The Company (Management) needs to cut the proverbial crap for a change.

CLT Heavy is calling the overtime list to the tune of 30 people per dock , per shift , with the exception of 3rd shift. While the overtime is being offered...more and more positions are being abolished by the day.

The issue is getting rid of numbers....and paying OT while thousands are on furlough means nothing to them.

We have a situation that requires bodies to accomplish the work....and it's painfully obvious to everyone except those controlling the lives and futures here.

The time to admit to making a huge mistake is past due....and the time to get cracking on getting planes out is equaly overdue. The fact is...it takes people to do this.

 

[johnnyfleet]

Then there's the IAM. For the mechanics and fleet service, I would expect to see the outsourcing issue be a big part - heavy maintenance for mechanics and a/c cleaning/servicing for fleet service. This could mean major furloughs and is (guessing again) a non-starter with those groups.

Ok, who did I miss?

Jim

Jim,

The Company can already contract out without restriction, any cleaning that is being done by Fleet Service employees, I'm not sure if there are any stations that currently have aircraft cleaning done by Fleet Service employees, and fleet service can only clean in stations that don't have any Maintenance and Related Employees, where it is done by utility.

We hear that the company wants to contract out catering functions, currently they are prohibited from contracting out catering in PIT, CLT, PHL, DCA, BWI.

Johnny

 

[700UW]

There is only catering in PIT, PHL and CLT, and Fleet Service cleans planes at numerous stations, as there are only utility on 1st and 2nd shift at CLT, PIT, PHL, BOS, DCA, LGA, LAX and SFO, F/A's do it at about 20 stations the rest is fleet and vendors, with the majority done by fleet.

 

[gogogadget]

This looks like a play from a Union busting attempt. My bets Moral will reach even lower until the twig everyone is standing on snaps. Employees say screw it and fall on the sword. U in BK liquidation. Sells all the important stuff to Virgin to raise money to pay debts. Virgin steals a rough diamond and hires a 100% American workforce for Virgin USA. Just happens there are thousands of unemployed former U workers willing to work at NEW HIRE rates at a fledgeling start-up. No unions, just people that are treated well and want to work at all costs. Dave takes the Golden.

The rest is history! h34r:

 

[jimntx]

Simply, I find the need to deal with a person to conduct your personal business to be a distasteful personality quirk. If I were going to lunch with a work colleague that I didn't know well, and he/she insisted on dealing with a teller to get money for lunch, I would be less likely to seek out this person for future socializing.

Well, avoiding people who enjoy interpersonal relationships with other people is certainly one way of keeping your Christmas card list short.

 

[jimntx]

The issue is getting rid of numbers....and paying OT while thousands are on furlough means nothing to them.

Dave and Dave may not be good at management, but they are good at math. The truth is that it is cheaper to pay OT to one employee than to pay full-time wages and benefits to two employees. The fact that the one employee eventually gets to the physical/mental breaking point is of no concern to them.

I've heard from friends of mine who are still flying at AA that flights are going out understaffed all the time now--understaffed from a contractual view, not understaffed per FAA. The company figured out that it is cheaper to pay understaffing pay to 3 flight attendants than to pay flight pay to the contractually-mandated 4th flight attendant. Particularly since our illustrious union allowed the company to cut understaffing pay from $10/hr to $5/hr.

 

[E-TRONS]

JIMNTX: That's the problem with CLT Base. It was never designed to succeed from the get go. Now it is so under-staffed that it doesn't pay to turn the lights on for the small number of employees on Sat/Sun. Yet they refuse to schedule a M-F workweek????

There was a Sunday not too long ago that there were FOUR mechanics working the A330. FOUR individuals...and this is no exaggeration!! How does one expect aircraft to remain on schedule with this nonsense going on? And OT is the cure all according to the idiot bean counters. All it has done has created an atmosphere of animosity between those refusing OT and those flocking to it. Nevermind all of the furloughed coworkers wondering if they will get called back. Just work all the OT you want. It disgusts me.

The company has made their intention clear that they want to farmout ALL heavy maintenance as demonstrated with the ST Mobile Aerospace debacle. That's right...all of it!! I wonder how much of the concessionary funds received has been and is being spent on this breach of our contract?? I don't care what any union busting judges say about the situation. The company is openly attempting to circumvent our CBA!! Minor dispute my eye!!! Dave Lorenzo drew that line in the sand himself :angry:

Now PROVEN union buster Jerry Gl-ASS has the audacity to show his face to the employees with these concession justification meetings?? Liars!!! Give me a break. You might as well invite Satan to dinner because I don't see much difference there myself!!

This so called management.......It's a complete farce!! They are robbing everyone and expecting you to smile and feel good about it. They can all (deleted by moderator) IMHO

 

[mweiss]

All it has done has created an atmosphere of animosity between those refusing OT and those flocking to it.

Why? Those who want OT are getting it; those who don't, aren't. What's the animosity about?

 

[E-TRONS]

Employees on the street have been replaced by OT. That is the issue and a matter of principle for many.

 

[mweiss]

Which would explain animosity between those working OT and those on the street. It does not, however, explain animosity between those working OT and those not working OT, but still on the job.

 

[sentrido]

Which would explain animosity between those working OT and those on the street. It does not, however, explain animosity between those working OT and those not working OT, but still on the job.

The animosity is between the guys who think nobody shouldnt take OT so the union brothers on the street will get called back, and the gang taking OT, in theory preventing callbacks.

 

[mweiss]

Ahh, the "those selfish bastards" argument. Got it.

 

[ktflyhome]

Ergo, if the union brothers on the street are called back, Seniorty rises.!!!