flt 1016 - back on the schedules

[flyJOE]

Effective the 3/11/07 schedule change, US flight 1016 is now back on the books, flying DFW-CLT-CHS. For those of you that don't remember, on 7/2/94, flight 1016, a DC-9 from CAE-CLT crashed on approach into CLT, killing 37.

As is customary when a fatal accident occurs, that flight number is retired. However this number was recycled. Other US flight number (427, 1493, 405, 5050) from our rough stretch in the '90s are still retired.

I think the HP folks have done a good job compared to the likes of Schofield, Wolf, and Siegel and remembering the past with the heritage aircraft. However they really dropped the ball on this one, not remembering this part of the past. Especially routing this flight number back through CLT too!

 

[wings396]

I'm sure it was an oversight, as they have always retired the flight numbers before. Since they are running the airline from Tempe now, they may not have been aware of the flight number history. Hopefully once they are made aware of the situation, they will correct it.

 

[NCFL]

Since they are running the airline from Tempe now, they may not have been aware...

Oh how profound, and how applicable on so many fronts, not just the recycling of US1016.

 

[sharktooth]

Effective the 3/11/07 schedule change, US flight 1016 is now back on the books, flying DFW-CLT-CHS. For those of you that don't remember, on 7/2/94, flight 1016, a DC-9 from CAE-CLT crashed on approach into CLT, killing 37.

As is customary when a fatal accident occurs, that flight number is retired. However this number was recycled. Other US flight number (427, 1493, 405, 5050) from our rough stretch in the '90s are still retired.

I think the HP folks have done a good job compared to the likes of Schofield, Wolf, and Siegel and remembering the past with the heritage aircraft. However they really dropped the ball on this one, not remembering this part of the past. Especially routing this flight number back through CLT too!

Unless one is steeped in mystical mumbo-jumbo, why would anyone care?

The one or two anti-Christian superstitious nuts who would be upset should probably choose another flight, if not another airline.

We don't have to go very far to find our own 'Merican religious nuts.

(Actually, I think you have a different agenda, but, I'll play along......)

 

[BoeingBoy]

Just calling it "mystical mumbo-jumbo" doesn't make it so. When a sports team retires a player's number, are they really hoping that they'll never have a player like that again?

It could be argued that retiring the numbers of flights that had fatal accidents is merely paying respect to both those that lost their lives as well as those that lost loved ones....

Jim

 

[PHX PHLyer]

HP has never had a fatality, crash, etc. WN and HP (of the larger airlines that have been around for a good while) had the clean records up until the MDW crash. HP has had no experience with retiring flight numbers...had to be an oversight.

 

[LGA777]

I know some of the folks in schedule planning and as said above I am sure it was oversight and not intentional. They have a lot on their plate and I am sure it would be easy to miss. Especially with the renumbering with all East flights starting at 700 and up. As the March schedule is still in the planning mode I will send them an e-mail and I am pretty sure it will get renumbered and not actually fly. FlyJoe glad you picked this up and posted it.

Regards

LGA777

 

[flyJOE]

As the March schedule is still in the planning mode I will send them an e-mail and I am pretty sure it will get renumbered and not actually fly.

LGA777

Thanks LGA. I totally agree it was likely an oversight, but one scheduling should double check on. It is a testament to HP to have never had a fatal crash in 20+ years of existence. I remember meeting US1016's arrival into PHL just a few days prior to the crash in CLT. The aircraft routing was CAE-CLT-PHL and was operated by an MD-80, but on Sat. it only went CAE-CLT with a DC-9. As a PSS in PHL, I had the unfortunate task of escorting a couple of families to CLT through PHL after the crash & then again a few months later after flt. 427. What a hard thing to do that was!

I actually brought it up on this board because of the scope of US employees on this board and that things could get changed quickly. If you contact US through Consumer Affairs or HQ, it's probably months until somebody reads it. By then the CLT Observer and other vultures have a field day. I had 6 years with US before I left and my father had 30+ years, so US has always been something special.

 

[ringmaruf]

Look, The Sandcastle is alot of things but this in my thinking has got to be an oversite.

Of course it's an oversite, but that's just the point. They should be proactive rather than reactive. For a company that's always claiming to be so mindful of the heritage of the various airlines, things like this (and screwing up *all three* of the AL/PI/PS paint schemes, but getting the 2 HP retro schemes right, for example) make it look like the "heritage" is just a bunch of lip-service and that they don't care until they're called on it.


I almost suggested that they program the computer to just not let them use those flight numbers, which should be simple enough to do. Then I remembered who runs the computers over there, and what brilliant success they've had doing so.

 

[Dog Wonder]

If it hasn't happened in PHX, it never happened.

 

[rjh]

Yes, it was probably an oversight. I wonder if anyone complaining about this bothered to take the time to email someone in schedule planning to let them know about the history of this particular flight number. Probably not.

 

[PHX PHLyer]

Yes, it was probably an oversight. I wonder if anyone complaining about this bothered to take the time to email someone in schedule planning to let them know about the history of this particular flight number. Probably not.

Or I wonder if you bothered to read LGA777's quote 4 or 5 posts up. Probably not

 

[nostradamus]

Yes, it was probably an oversight. I wonder if anyone complaining about this bothered to take the time to email someone in schedule planning to let them know about the history of this particular flight number. Probably not.

It is also possible that management monitors this board.