Fleet Service thread IAM

[orioleman]

"I heard a union rep say that a merger was in the works with United and that the IAM would end up replacing the CWA as the union for the customer service side? Does this make any sense to anyone? Does the IAM Cover United's fleet and customer service agents?"

YES they do .. god help you all.. Get ready for a ride of a lifetime

 

[b737200]

We have to unite in solidarity to crush this t/a. This means the west has to get on board with the east
Just remember there are 19 station that could disappear, around 1200 jobs from what I'm told.
Don't jump at the money look at the scope and other bennies too.

 

[orioleman]

mike,
" My suggestion for all who read here, is to copy and paste the info that will come out. Have it handy so you can print it for yourself and then you won't have

to go back pages or even days to find it. This forum can explode at times and the info you are looking for can get buried very easily. print it and save it for

your own verification/comparisons. You'll need it!"


good point if you get up and Pee your 2 pages behind..

sidenote : want some background on your traitor of a neg.. go to below link


http://canaleunplugged.livejournal.com/
canaleunplugged's Journal :down:

 

[roabilly]

Roa
When it comes out maybe we can figure what sections we are most familiar with send each other a msg to decide who takes what........

No more reading in the dark!

Hear yahh... "33"

Excellent idea…!

Each member has a passion…

Can I please take Mergers and Acquisitions?

 

[rat tales]

Cheapsuites-----TRAITOR
JF- CLT ---------TRAITOR
PF- PHL----------TRAITOR
BC- PHL----------TRAITOR
MW-PIT-----------TRAITOR
NG-LAX------------TRAITOR
RR-PHX-------------TRAITOR
GS-PHL--------------SCUM

All but gs are in the 100,000 dollar club, and don't give a crap about you, only themselves.
Payback will be in June.

ARTICLE IX - DUTIES OF OFFICERS
Section 2.
(B) For the faithful performance of their duties, each Assistant General Chairman shall receive the following monthly salary rate, effective 01-01-06:
First six (6) months' service $7,988.24
Second six (6) months' service $8,066.27
Thereafter $8,145.58
The above salaries shall be increased each January 1st by a percentage equal to the percentage increase in weighted average hourly earnings on a union-wide basis. In addition, a per diem while away from his designated headquarters in the regular performance of his duties.


This is the best motivation for the AGC's involved to throw any of us under the bus and not blink. 22% "overall" raise will translate into a 22% raise for them. Increased costs for insurance etc. do not take away from their raises. Remember not one of these AGC's were elected. They owe their positions and their income to Randy. We did not send them there and they owe us nothing.
Maybe we need to call for an SEC investigation of Randy, See if he has any offshore accounts. Stocks maybe where his payday really comes in.

 

[Save708AW]

Took a look at the Continental Pay scales from the link you guys provided. Let's not use them as a model to emulate. On their scale, in your first ten years, you go from 9.89 to 20.19. Then from your 10th year to your 20th you go from 20.19 to 20.43. Wow! your second TEN years are only worth 24 cents. Not even equivalent to the cost of living.

I think before we grab our pitcforks and torches and start a march we should wait and see what actually comes our way. If its crap then so be it. If not, lets not throw it our just because of our hatred towards individuals. So many people on here seem to have so much hate that I doubt they would take any agreement. There are people on here that are motivated for the wrong reasons. Keep your eyes on the prize folks. Lets vote it in for the right reasons or vote it down for the right reasons.

I am with the poster above me who had the idea to pick the agreement apart on this forum. That is an excellent idea. By the time the vote comes up, we should be experts on this T/A. We can make ourselves, "representatives", for our peers! Share our info in the breakrooms, in the bins, while waiting to push, everywhere! Until every last employee in this airline who has gone home with grey knees becomes an expert.

 

[Tim Nelson]

We have to unite in solidarity to crush this t/a. This means the west has to get on board with the east
Just remember there are 19 station that could disappear, around 1200 jobs from what I'm told.
Don't jump at the money look at the scope and other bennies too.

My understanding is that hemenway had to get Canale to kick off two negotiations team members for this to be the unanimous recommendation that Hemenway was looking for to get his 'piss clam' contract back. Some highlights have been faxed to me and my understanding is that the language isn't much better. I remember they basically booted off TA so the last contract could get passed unanimously, then they signed his name. We will make sure that those who were a part of this BS that Canale dismissed will be encouraged to write a letter to this entire membership explaining exactly how Canale got all this to take place for Hemenway's sake.

I also want to address this United Airline merger talks with Canale and I hope to have the opportunity on Friday. I'm interested if he shared this with the negotiations team. Also interested in the upper brass who flew into ORD to meet with UA this past week. It could be possible that Canale has violated some ethics/SEC rules as a UA board of Director by expressing some things.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[rat tales]

Here is a suggestion I heard today,

Friday we wear something like black armbands or black T-shirts in support of MF and DH. Wear black shirts to your Union meeting to make a statement.

 

[JoeDirt]

Good idea Tails. I have always respected Mike F. but that respect has grown 10 fold.

 

[Tim Nelson]

We have to unite in solidarity to crush this t/a. This means the west has to get on board with the east
Just remember there are 19 station that could disappear, around 1200 jobs from what I'm told.
Don't jump at the money look at the scope and other bennies too.

We are stronger out west for sure than we were. Back in September we didn't know anyone out there. We've worked with the west together for the new direction team and have developed 'key' relationships in our network of solidarity.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[rat tales]

Took a look at the Continental Pay scales from the link you guys provided. Let's not use them as a model to emulate. On their scale, in your first ten years, you go from 9.89 to 20.19. Then from your 10th year to your 20th you go from 20.19 to 20.43. Wow! your second TEN years are only worth 24 cents. Not even equivalent to the cost of living.

We top out in 10 years too. What do we get after that?

What is your point?

 

[LuggageJockey]

"I heard a union rep say that a merger was in the works with United and that the IAM would end up replacing the CWA as the union for the customer service side? Does this make any sense to anyone? Does the IAM Cover United's fleet and customer service agents?"

YES they do .. god help you all.. Get ready for a ride of a lifetime

Don't know about the merger rumor. However spent a year at United & the IAM covers their fleet workers. What a difference between the two contracts for the same union. United's is up in 2009 too...However their top out is higher $19.74 (I think), Still have double time, 6 weeks of vacation, Your B-Day, & Anniversary off, & more can't remember all of it.

 

[roabilly]

Here is a suggestion I heard today,

Friday we wear something like black armbands or black T-shirts in support of MF and DH. Wear black shirts to your Union meeting to make a statement.

Tales...

I'm in ! I'll get the word out with yahh !

 

[Tim Nelson]

Took a look at the Continental Pay scales from the link you guys provided. Let's not use them as a model to emulate. On their scale, in your first ten years, you go from 9.89 to 20.19. Then from your 10th year to your 20th you go from 20.19 to 20.43. Wow! your second TEN years are only worth 24 cents. Not even equivalent to the cost of living.

I think before we grab our pitcforks and torches and start a march we should wait and see what actually comes our way. If its crap then so be it. If not, lets not throw it our just because of our hatred towards individuals. So many people on here seem to have so much hate that I doubt they would take any agreement. There are people on here that are motivated for the wrong reasons. Keep your eyes on the prize folks. Lets vote it in for the right reasons or vote it down for the right reasons.

I am with the poster above me who had the idea to pick the agreement apart on this forum. That is an excellent idea. By the time the vote comes up, we should be experts on this T/A. We can make ourselves, "representatives", for our peers! Share our info in the breakrooms, in the bins, while waiting to push, everywhere! Until every last employee in this airline who has gone home with grey knees becomes an expert.

Huh? The second 10 years is the longevity pay. Kindly read it. At any rate, the point is that Continental is in the same industry with same fuel bills and is non-union, yet the top out is $20.43, lead pay is another $1.75

Sick pay: Full 8 hours pay

Vacation weeks: 5

Health Care: Similar to ours but Continental has negotiated a health plan where the employees get $25 off their monthly health care contribution per spouse [up to $50] if neither spouse smokes. Essentially another $50 per month.

Profit sharing: Best in industry. Up to 7.0% of earnings. If avg check is $3,100 that would equate into another $1.50 per hour on the yearly base wage. This year, the avg full time check was significant. 3x the profit sharing of US AIRWAYS fleet service.

Retirement: 401k with company contributions.

Yearly Bonus’: Gives employees $100 per month when Continental finishes #1 in ontime. Gives $65 month for 2nd or 3rd place, or still get $65 if on-time is over 80%. Each ramper received $755 in these bonus’ for 2007

kindly consider the above just a 'sample' of how US AIRWAYS fleet are sucking up the bottom in a mighty way and will continue to suck up the bottom as guarateed with Canale's Hemenway appeasement.

We will do a 'full industry' comparison when comparing this contract with industry standards. Workers are owed that so they can consider the fairness of this latest TA.
So that when Canale claims 'you got the best you can get', you will be educated on just how disrespectful Hemenway has been to you with Canale's blessing. Remember, the upper brass believes in its 8k filing of last week that they should get 200% bonus' next year. We will also publish all the new filings where US AIRWAYS execs will get 'big bonus'. All fleet service will be given these handouts so that they will be informed.

That voice that will be shouting on top the hill claiming 'gloom and doom' because of oil will be named Boss. Remember, "He did the best that he could."

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[Tim Nelson]

Don't know about the merger rumor. However spent a year at United & the IAM covers their fleet workers. What a difference between the two contracts for the same union. United's is up in 2009 too...However their top out is higher $19.74 (I think), Still have double time, 6 weeks of vacation, Your B-Day, & Anniversary off, & more can't remember all of it.

Actually the United Airline wage rates are a top out of $20.41 effective May 1st [including longevity pay]
Throw in $21.68 for leads [including the longevity pay].

What is insulting is that Canale kept the entire west side negotiations team intact but eliminated the PIT and CLT station reps. That's the only way he could legally bring back a TA with an unanimous recommendation.

At any rate, it's not like Continental or United have the top two wage rates because they don't. But if hemenway gets his way, he'll get YOU to vote in his contract that 'guarantees' YOU at the industry gutter for the next 5 years. I might add that I would suspect that Hemenway will get a big fat bonus by getting Canale to team up with him if he can 'hoodwink' fleet.

regards,
Tim Nelson
Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago