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On 4/3/2003 5:02:02 PM Us/Metro wrote:
To all AA Flight Attendants
Well there is no dought about it if this is the T/A they are offering you its the worst one yet. We at U just finished with this whole mess. I''m sure some of you have been following what went on at U but I thought I could point out some of the finer points for you. As you know we voted on our first T/A and It was pretty bad but it passed. We were told If we voted for it that they would not come back to us for more and that we would probably not have to file for bk. Almost as soon as we signed they did infact file. A couple of months later the projected increase in travel didn''t happen so they came back for more(the rest really). Now we were in bk so they held a gun to our heads and said if you don''t pass the second T/A we will liquidate the company. So what other choice did we have(none)so it passed. I think that AA management has every intention of going into bk. Its the only way to get rid of all the excess aircraft and give your company some time to not pay any bills. All this time UA has been in BK they haven''t had to pay for anything that they owed before bk. I''m sure your management would love to do the same for a while. I know its a gamble but I think you will do better after bk. The judge will not throw out your contracts right away. To keep the DIP financers happy they will have to come back and work with you on a new T/A. Remember there is no guarentee that they will not come back for more once you sign on the dotted line. This T/A they are offering you is alot worse than the one we have here at U. We gave up about the same amt of pay and our duty rigs are worse than they were but we did not take as big a hit on vacation. I have 16 years and still have 29 days(down from 33)Max out vacation is still at 40 days for 25years (down from 44). Our vacation days (for a non option f/a 85 hrs per month) are paid at 4:03 per day. We do not claim trips missed. At 16 years my hr rate is $40.24 per hr (we do not have an incentive rate over 70 hrs)Our perdiem rates are $1.90 domestic and $2.10 international. We still have a part time program. F/A''s on the part time program have to work between 50/55 hrs per month, they do have changes to vacation and dental and medical bennies. A 16 year F/A gets 20 days vacation if they are on our 50/55hr option. We get 2 personal days per year( if you have an unexpected emergency you call crew sched and they will take you off your trip. You can do this 2 times per year with no question asked( they take the day from your next years vacation accrual)We have a new commuter policy. You must give yourself 2 flights to get to work. If both flights are delayed due to weather or mechanical problems you call crew sched and they will take you off your trip. You have to make the time up later in the month. They changed the drug test policy. The first positive drug test will not automatically result in termination. We no longer pay anything for our pass privilages for self/spouse/children/parents. We can also put a friend on our pass and they pay a tax formula for there ticket. We have 5 flying options 55/75/85/95/105 hrs per month. So thats a list of some of the good and some of the bad in our new contract. As you can see its a little better than what they are offering you. If you have any questions just ask and I will try to ans them. If you want a copy of our T/A I will try to get one for you. Take care and good luck to us all
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That sounds all nice and well. But this is AA. They dont play around. They will go for the jugular in BK court. Don Carty already refered to U as an airline that entered in to BK with the industrys highest costs and came out as simply another high cost carrier. The article showed U at 12 point something cents per seat mile before BK, after it was 10 point something.On 4/3/2003 5:02:02 PM Us/Metro wrote:
To all AA Flight Attendants
Well there is no dought about it if this is the T/A they are offering you its the worst one yet. We at U just finished with this whole mess. I''m sure some of you have been following what went on at U but I thought I could point out some of the finer points for you. As you know we voted on our first T/A and It was pretty bad but it passed. We were told If we voted for it that they would not come back to us for more and that we would probably not have to file for bk. Almost as soon as we signed they did infact file. A couple of months later the projected increase in travel didn''t happen so they came back for more(the rest really). Now we were in bk so they held a gun to our heads and said if you don''t pass the second T/A we will liquidate the company. So what other choice did we have(none)so it passed. I think that AA management has every intention of going into bk. Its the only way to get rid of all the excess aircraft and give your company some time to not pay any bills. All this time UA has been in BK they haven''t had to pay for anything that they owed before bk. I''m sure your management would love to do the same for a while. I know its a gamble but I think you will do better after bk. The judge will not throw out your contracts right away. To keep the DIP financers happy they will have to come back and work with you on a new T/A. Remember there is no guarentee that they will not come back for more once you sign on the dotted line. This T/A they are offering you is alot worse than the one we have here at U. We gave up about the same amt of pay and our duty rigs are worse than they were but we did not take as big a hit on vacation. I have 16 years and still have 29 days(down from 33)Max out vacation is still at 40 days for 25years (down from 44). Our vacation days (for a non option f/a 85 hrs per month) are paid at 4:03 per day. We do not claim trips missed. At 16 years my hr rate is $40.24 per hr (we do not have an incentive rate over 70 hrs)Our perdiem rates are $1.90 domestic and $2.10 international. We still have a part time program. F/A''s on the part time program have to work between 50/55 hrs per month, they do have changes to vacation and dental and medical bennies. A 16 year F/A gets 20 days vacation if they are on our 50/55hr option. We get 2 personal days per year( if you have an unexpected emergency you call crew sched and they will take you off your trip. You can do this 2 times per year with no question asked( they take the day from your next years vacation accrual)We have a new commuter policy. You must give yourself 2 flights to get to work. If both flights are delayed due to weather or mechanical problems you call crew sched and they will take you off your trip. You have to make the time up later in the month. They changed the drug test policy. The first positive drug test will not automatically result in termination. We no longer pay anything for our pass privilages for self/spouse/children/parents. We can also put a friend on our pass and they pay a tax formula for there ticket. We have 5 flying options 55/75/85/95/105 hrs per month. So thats a list of some of the good and some of the bad in our new contract. As you can see its a little better than what they are offering you. If you have any questions just ask and I will try to ans them. If you want a copy of our T/A I will try to get one for you. Take care and good luck to us all
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AA wont do the "take some now", and then play the "U chapter 7 bonner game." It will simply be everything we have plus our first born. Play your cards right sometime later you can have your kid back.
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