F/A's Agree on single contract

[swamt]

WOW!! All of the sudden they announce that US and AW come to T/A to a single contract. Although it took 7 years to get the T/A. If the merger of US and AA are going to happen, we will more than likely see the pilots also come to an agreement sometime in the near future...
Here's the article:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-Airways-Flight-Attendant-tsmf-510031923.html?x=0

 

[brokenwrench]

WOW!! All of the sudden they announce that US and AW come to T/A to a single contract. Although it took 7 years to get the T/A. If the merger of US and AA are going to happen, we will more than likely see the pilots also come to an agreement sometime in the near future...
Here's the article:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-Airways-Flight-Attendant-tsmf-510031923.html?x=0

The East and West pilots are not close nor will they ever be to a single contract. The next single list those two groups will be on will be if/when they merge with a larger carrier.

To much animosity between the two groups. Much disagreement about how to merge seniority, hope this lesson is not lost on others.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Until the pilot's seniority fight is over, there won't be a single contract. The mediator has even given up and has no more mediated negotiations scheduled. Something might come from the company's declaratory judgement proceeding after March, but it depends on when and how the judge rules.

Jim

 

[brokenwrench]

Until the pilot's seniority fight is over, there won't be a single contract. The mediator has even given up and has no more mediated negotiations scheduled. Something might come from the company's declaratory judgement proceeding after March, but it depends on when and how the judge rules.

Jim

Very true.
Say the judge rules in the company's favor, they may end up with a single contract. But labor peace will be another thing!

 

[FA Mikey]

Are we really going to start a new thread every time someone takes a pee, or an airplane lands and try to stretch it to a conclusion of how this now relates to an impending merger?

This has nothing to do with AA at all? Its about usair flight attendants and will soon deteriorate to a pilot seniority diatribe. Oh, wait. Sorry too late.

 

[swamt]

Are we really going to start a new thread every time someone takes a pee, or an airplane lands and try to stretch it to a conclusion of how this now relates to an impending merger?

This has nothing to do with AA at all? Its about usair flight attendants and will soon deteriorate to a pilot seniority diatribe. Oh, wait. Sorry too late.

Currently it has nothing to do with AA. But it could and will if US has to have all the senority agreements done in order to put in a cleaner offer for AA.

 

[FWAAA]

I posted a while back that it would be funny IF US and AA combined prior to the US pilots solving their seniority dispute and if the APA chose to use arbitration to solve the seniority integration between US and AA pilots and if Nicolau were chosen to conduct the arbitration. My guess is that he'd pull out his prior decision (the "Nic list") and combine that list with the APA list, essentially imposing his earlier integration solution on the East pilots.

 

[johnny kat]

I haven't seen the tentative but I have heard it is an industry leading contract. So if this is true and the F/As' ratify it will create a lot of goodwill that hasn't been there. AA's f/as may want to take a look at this contract to see if it is something they can live with. If so then AA pilots will have to see if merging with US is something they can live with. Because the AA pilots have the numbers to vote USAPA out at once and void the whole Nic award debacle. Then AA pilot's union can impose their seniority and work rules upon the US pilots day one of any merger. This whole exercise is a pretty simple maneuver. The courts haven't ruled and mangement hasn't sided, the issue of US pilot's seniority can be removed from the table very quickly. The issue could then be debated ad nauseum in a labor law forum for decades to come without any concern from AA or its' pilots. A merger does not have to be as complicated as some would assume. It all depends on just how much money mgmt is willing to give to the pilots.

 

[swamt]

I haven't seen the tentative but I have heard it is an industry leading contract. So if this is true and the F/As' ratify it will create a lot of goodwill that hasn't been there. AA's f/as may want to take a look at this contract to see if it is something they can live with. If so then AA pilots will have to see if merging with US is something they can live with. Because the AA pilots have the numbers to vote USAPA out at once and void the whole Nic award debacle. Then AA pilot's union can impose their seniority and work rules upon the US pilots day one of any merger. This whole exercise is a pretty simple maneuver. The courts haven't ruled and mangement hasn't sided, the issue of US pilot's seniority can be removed from the table very quickly. The issue could then be debated ad nauseum in a labor law forum for decades to come without any concern from AA or its' pilots. A merger does not have to be as complicated as some would assume. It all depends on just how much money mgmt is willing to give to the pilots.

So you too think this has alot to do with AA as well? Although, Delta has now thrown in the monkey wrench now. They are now announcing a plan to merge with US. This is more than likely a possition move, or statigic. And it very well good be a move to force a merger with AA and US. Only time will tell...

 

[BoeingBoy]

Despite the cheerleaders, DL isn't in a position to force anyone to do anything. Anyone who knows anything about the airline industry knows that a DL/US merger is all but impossible, even with carving out one of the shuttles. There's just too much domestic overlap. Just one small example - does anyone actually think that after making DL and US divest some of the DCA/LGA slots that the DOT would allow all those slots to be in one carrier's hands? So if that's DL management's thinking, they're not as smart as some claim.

JIm

 

[etops1]

Industry leading ?? I will believe it when I see it <_<