DL expands SEA further with SEA-SFO flights

[700UW]

Sure about that?
 
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2013/06/21/delta-is-about-to-make-its-problems-worse/
 

Still, Delta continues to make changes to the SkyMiles program, many of which appear geared toward reducing the value of frequent fliers. Earlier this month, the airline announced that flying on a broad spectrum of partner carriers will no longer result in full benefits applicable to travel on Delta. Korean Air, a long-time Asian partner, has all but been eviscerated from the earning structure, giving many loyal Delta travelers scant reason to fly on the carrier.
 

http://crankyflier.com/2013/06/06/as-delta-grows-stronger-partner-benefits-suffer/

 

The last group is my favorite. These are airlines that are telling Delta to screw off. In this level, no elite miles, no premium cabin bonuses, and no elite bonuses are awarded. You’ll still earn regular redeemable miles in most cases. This is hardly a surprise for an airline like Hawaiian which will get most of Delta’s interisland business via codeshare. No reason to participate beyond that. And Malaysia, well, it’s a oneworld airline now, so Delta is an afterthought. It’s probably not interested. Olympic is a mess, so that’s not a surprise either. But the one everyone is talking about is Korean.
 
Korean is a major SkyTeam partner and now no elite qualifying miles will be awarded at all for any flights booked on the KE code. I just spent a couple days with Korean in Seoul so I wish I could have asked them about this while I was there. But I can guess how this went down.
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

and yet KE decided to downgrade its presence in DL competitive markets and refocus them on AA competitive markets even though DL is adding SEA-ICN. In a little over the space of a year, DFW-ICN went from 3 or 4X/week service to twice daily between AA and KE.

We've been thru it before with KE, but they have similar interline strategies with non-alliance carriers... and yet both DL and KE connect plenty of passengers onto each other's networks.

DL is succeeding as well as it is throughout its business because it doesn't take a one size fits all strategy to anything but customizes based on what generates the most revenue, and that includes alliance relationships.

 

[700UW]

There you go again "We've".

There is no "We've" you don't work for Delta.

Paging Kevin, Kevin please come to airlineforums.com, lol,

 

[robbedagain]

i would not be shocked nor surprised if KE leaves skyteam at some point

 

[WorldTraveler]

There you go again "We've". There is no "We've" you don't work for Delta. Paging Kevin, Kevin please come to airlineforums.com, lol,

are you truly dense?

Can you not understand that the context of 'we've' is referring to us on this discussion board, not DL or its employees?

Whether someone understands what is being said, the vast majority of people are smart enough to not open their mouth and repeatedly make fools of themselves.

And it still doesn't change that DL employees have no more or less right to talk about issues than anyone else despite what you and Kevin seem to think.
 

i would not be shocked nor surprised if KE leaves skyteam at some point

KE is a founding member of Skyteam. The exit process to leave any alliance is not easy but esp. for a founding member.

And KE's interline strategies are no more welcoming to any other airline, including oneworld and Star who both have large Japanese alliance members.
KE is the largest foreign carrier in Japan and is a strategic threat to any airline that has large northern Asia operations.

 

[700UW]

We've been thru it before with KE, but they have similar interline strategies with non-alliance carriers... and yet both DL and KE connect plenty of passengers onto each other's networks.

 

are you truly dense?

Can you not understand that the context of 'we've' is referring to us on this discussion board, not DL or its employees?

No one can fix their raw intelligence but they can be smart enough to not open their mouth and make fools repeatedly.

And it still doesn't change that DL employees have no more or less right to talk about issues than anyone else despite what you and Kevin seem to think.
 

God would be so proud, would OM be too?
 
And no you are not referring to the board, you said we and in your context you mean Delta.
 
Stop trying to spin.
 
Glad to see you are calling names and attacking again, you are such a good reverend.
 
No one on this board, including Kevin and myself, has ever said you dont have a right to post, stop deflecting, stop lying and stop putting words into posts that dont exist.

 

[WorldTraveler]

this board isn't about things religious. it is an aviation chat board.

There are plenty of religiously oriented chat sites if you want to frequent one.

also doesn't change that you have even mixed up your connections with the religious world and how you think they are connected.

stick to airline labor issues... you mess them up enough without throwing other subjects into the pot.

And it doesn't change that you are so hellbent on reading something into a discussion that isn't there that you completely went off the deep end in your interpretation.

I'm sure you won't grasp that characteristic you possess and just demonstrated regarding a business aspect of the forum discussion is the same thing you demonstrate and it is why you are a liability to the labor movement instead of the asset that you think you are.

 

[700UW]

You make me laugh.
 
Is this your motto:"Do as I say and not as I do?"
 
Because you have certainly attacked people, saying Eric is drinking Jack Daniels while posting and asking personal questions of myself and others?
 
Like people say if you live in a glass house dont throw stones.

 

[WorldTraveler]

who is Eric? I don't know anyone that uses that board name.

You need to understand that this is an anonymous chat board. If you want to get rid of YOUR anonymity, you can post under your name and post your own personal credentials.

Since you don't use a real name for your user ID and don't sign with your name, we can presume you want to remain anonymous here.

If you want to break that barrier for others, we can do the same for you.

 

[700UW]

Are you making threats again?
 
And you know darn well who you tried to out in the past, and you even tried to harm his Business reputation.
 
Stop with the lies all ready.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I haven't outed anyone. I don't post anyone's name or personal information other than what is revealed on this board.


No, it is not a threat. It is a promise.

If you want to post other people's personal information on the board, then I will do the same for you.

Absolutely guaranteed.

Got it?

 

[737823]

are you truly dense?

Can you not understand that the context of 'we've' is referring to us on this discussion board, not DL or its employees?

Whether someone understands what is being said, the vast majority of people are smart enough to not open their mouth and repeatedly make fools of themselves.

And it still doesn't change that DL employees have no more or less right to talk about issues than anyone else despite what you and Kevin seem to think.
 

KE is a founding member of Skyteam. The exit process to leave any alliance is not easy but esp. for a founding member.

And KE's interline strategies are no more welcoming to any other airline, including oneworld and Star who both have large Japanese alliance members.
KE is the largest foreign carrier in Japan and is a strategic threat to any airline that has large northern Asia operations.

Maybe time for a refresher:

Not anymore. We do have F/A and pilot base here and approximately 33 daily flights (9x DFW, 4x JFK, 3x LAX, 7x MIA, and 10x ORD) along with seasonal CDG flight. The operation is much smaller than you remember it and even smaller than in the 2009/2010 time period.

Josh

Seems like someone hasnt been truthful all these years.
 
You claim to be in the "finance" industry, yet you just said "We Do", seems you just outed yourself and my thoughts of you lying about who you are has just come true.
 
What little credibility you had is now gone, 700UW: 1, Joshie: 0!
 
Something is rotten in Denmark.

Josh

 

[700UW]

 

[eolesen]

I haven't outed anyone. I don't post anyone's name or personal information other than what is revealed on this board.

Nah, you've just posted libelous statements, and have used my full name repeatedly in posts, which at your own admission was intended to draw Google hits when a prospective client looked me up.

Other than that, your hands are completely clean, right?

You've unstuffed the pillow on enough occasions to deserve a ban here as well, but for some reason the moderators still put up with you.

 

[WorldTraveler]

Hello. Your username IS your real name. You made that decision about 10 years ago. Not many others have.

I have posted no information other than what you have posted on here. For some reason you haven't hesitated to post your city or metro area of residence, employment history, political affiliations etc.

Others don't and haven't done that. You and 700 would due well to understand the difference.

700 apparently wants to remain anonymous on this forum even though he heavily uses his name on other locations. He also doesn't post any of his non-board activities on this forum. Thus, I will respect that division between what he posts here and elsewhere as long as he chooses to the do the same.

apparently your sense of self-righteousness isn't seen by the moderators.....

meanwhile back at the discussion regarding DL's west coast strategy, DL is freeing up 777 time for new trans Pacific flights to be announced shortly