Delta loads new DAL flights

[LD3]

 

WN has offered nothing innovative to the market for years.

 
Except turning profits year after year and not filing for BK.....the only viable business model DL and the other legacies had was to file...

 

[swamt]

Just gotta love how WT is explaining how SWA is mis-handling their business.  WOW!!  According to him SWA doesn't know what they are doing OR how to run a business.   And this is why SWA has been a profitable airline for well over 40+ years with out one single BK on file, one single involuntary law-off or rifs, one single pay cut or gutting of contracts, and yet SWA bought another airline WITHOUT having to go thru the BK process, and bought said airline with cash on hand without dipping into or touching any reserves of any kind.  Hmmmm   Yea SWA doesn't have a clue do they???
 
Keep twisting words WT.  I am said SWA mechanic that said SWA was looking into the legalities of Delta selling tickets for gates they are not guaranteed to be occupying at time W/A is gone.  I am assuming either nothing has come to the surface, or SWA's persistence has leveled off since the announcement that Delta was not in the running for the LF gates.  Like I have said before,  Delta can leave all those flights up as they could (could being a very strong word here), very well be successful at leasing other gates at LF.  As you have stated yourself, Delta wants gates at LF very badly and might even be willing to pay top-top dollar to E.J. as they are the owners of the other 2 gates at LF.  I will assure you one thing;  SWA will not lease the 2 gates to Delta or anyone for that matter.  SWA has way too much usage for said gates to lease them out, ain't gonna happen.
 
Just like E has said, you will just keep going on and on and on.  I have suggested many times to put this to rest, as nothing has changed, and you just keep repeating your self over and over and over like a broken record...

 

[swamt]

BTW have you all heard the expansion by SWA at LF just announced?  More and more non-stops getting added.  But according to WT,  SWA is doing it all wrong. 

 

[robbedagain]

that's great swamt..  just remember  whats good for delta is not good for any other air carrier  and no matter how good other airlines do it   only delta does it best

 

[700UW]

Someone is systematically voting up 700s posts and has been for several weeks now. Yet no one says a peep. Did you similarly setup a monitoring mechanism for 700s reputation score like you said you did for WT?

Josh

And this has what to do with the topic?
 
Why are you obsessed with me?

 

[Kev3188]

Again, it is worth noting that DL is led by a very successful Texas raised lawyer.

 
No it's not...
 

It's not personal, E.

See below:
 
 

Everything is personal to you. You have made that abundantly clear over the years here.

+1
 
 

No, it's our way of saying shut your pie hole until there's substantial to actually add to the discussion.

You've made your points, but now it's beating a dead horse, which ain't getting up.

You keep reiterating the same crap, over and over, in five different threads, across three different forums here.

There comes a time in social discussion where there's really not much else left to say.

You're not changing anyone else's mind by repeating your point over and over.



(snip)


No, it's not personal. It's just annoying everyone around you. Classic Asperger's trait.

Amen. Just more bulldozing through every thread in the hopes that "posting by attrition" will win out. Meanwhile, most chances of an actual discussion are either suffocated, or involve wading through dozens of posts to get to what's relevant.
 
 

I have suggested many times to put this to rest, as nothing has changed, and you just keep repeating your self over and over and over like a broken record...

That's how it goes, man...

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, what it means is that I have been dead right about AA's financial situation which resulted in the BK that I predicted years ago but E and other AA loyalists tried to tell me I was wrong... all the while arguing against genuine data that highlighted how badly AA was doing regarding revenue.
 
I was also dead on with saying that DL employees would never vote to unionize another major workgroup and to Kevin's great consternation, I am right.
 
He and E say I am adding nothing to the conversation but how many gajillions of times have we heard that the next card drive would provide the number necessary to force a vote?
 
No, you two mental midgets want to me to shut up because I am right and prove how wrong you are.
 
that is all the more reason why I continue on.
 
Josh,
carry on with whatever you want... this board is the equivalent of the wild west and the lawless are paying off the few sheriffs and creating their own law.
 
Truth wins.  It always does and always will.

 

[Kev3188]

I was also dead on with saying that DL employees would never vote to unionize another major workgroup and to Kevin's great consternation, I am right.

To steal a phrase from you, "that story isn't yet written."
 

No, you two mental midgets want to me to shut up because I am right and prove how wrong you are.

In this case, it's not an issue of right/wrong; it's an issue of talking simply for the sale of doing so. Is there something new to add yet? No? Okay.
 

 

Truth wins.  It always does and always will.

And right now the truth is that for whatever reason you're repeating yourself, and not really adding anything of substance to a topic that absent any significant developments has reached a pause...

 

[LD3]

What traffic would DL expect to capture servicing DAL that they can't get from adding more service down the road? Aren't they just adding overhead running such a close operation to DFW?

 

[eolesen]

Of course they're adding overhead. Maybe they seem to think they're going to still get a revenue premium while operating head to head with WN.

That's a pretty risky proposition if you believe one of WT's "let's say it 10,001 times" arguments, which is how AA will see their revenue premium evaporate once WN starts flying to LAX, LGA, etc. out of DAL.

It's more than just a bit specious to argue that AA can't maintain a revenue premium from DFW but DL can from DAL.

 

[swamt]

Hey WT, what year did you predict that AA was going to file for BK??  Not asking you for the prediction AA would file, asking you what year you stated they will end up in BK???

 

[WorldTraveler]

What traffic would DL expect to capture servicing DAL that they can't get from adding more service down the road? Aren't they just adding overhead running such a close operation to DFW?

 
 
and the same thing could be said for WN. 
 
If there is no reason to have an airport at DAL that provides anything different from DFW, then the airport should be closed.
 
As long as DAL is open, there is no legal or moral basis for arguing that WN should be allowed access but other carriers cannot.
 
Again, there is no situation like DAL in the entire US aviation system.  
 
It will fall.  
 
about 2005, swamt. 

 

[LD3]

 

and the same thing could be said for WN. 
 
If there is no reason to have an airport at DAL that provides anything different from DFW, then the airport should be closed.
 
As long as DAL is open, there is no legal or moral basis for arguing that WN should be allowed access but other carriers cannot.
 
Again, there is no situation like DAL in the entire US aviation system.  
 
It will fall.  
 
about 2005, swamt.

I didn't know that SW flies to DFW...All I asked was, what traffic DL will pull from DAL that they can't get from DFW and you go to deflecting as usual....

 

[swamt]

LD3  FYI,  SWA does not fly from DFW.  Too far away from DT Dallas and all the businesses.  Also the fees at DFW are much, much higher, as are all the cost related to DFW.  SWA can compete and keep fares lower in the North Texas market just by flying out of LF only.  Just look at the St. Louis routes from Dallas/DFW.    All airlines out there had their chance to stay at LF back in the day, nobody was forced to sign anything, they all volunteered to relocate to DFW, SWA was not flying at time the other airlines vacated (when the agreement to vacate LF was formed not the W/A).  Nothing is going to happen to LF, WT is spouting off and not knowing what he is talking about.  Delta is free to expand at DFW (which is the very same Texas market) and run all the flights they want to compete against SWA, but as we all seen in 2004 they decided to cut over 120 flights out of DFW, not sure if they would want to try it all over again with all the traveling public already set with other carriers all these years--but who knows. 
If WT wants Delta to sue someone they need to sue the DOJ who made all the rules that restricted Delta from being awarded any gates.  Then if he wants he can sue the 5 parties that signed off on the repeal of the W/A' new agreement signed and approved by gov agencies,  in 2007.  Yes 2007, now during this said 7 year waiting period where was any of the airlines push to get into LF???   NONE.  It wasn't until these lone 2 gates at Love Field came up for bid that Delta became interested, where was their interest during the 7 year waiting period?  Delta had plenty of opportunities to come to LF and start flying before these 2 gates came available.  And now that the DOJ put the LCC and other restrictions on who will be awarded the gates, Delta is throwing temper tantrums, or should I say, WT is throwing them for Delta.  Heck I bet Delta never does anything, it may be just WT spouting off.  Time will tell...

 

[swamt]

Not to burst your bubble, oh wait, scratch that.  If you would go thru all the threads and forums concerning the AA fiasco in 2003 you will find that I said for the AA'ers to vote no because the company will take them for what they get took for and then come back and file BK to get over double what all the other airlines got in their BK as AA will just sit back, watch the other airlines go thru their BK's and go back in to come out the leanest and best reorganized airline out there.  Then AA did exactly that.   Didn't want you to take all the credit like you always try to do, it just wouldn't be right...