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WorldTraveler said:
You again are sticking your nose into a subject that you know nothing about in order to try to defame me.
You should probably take that arrow out of your quiver unless you plan to stay out of any labor-related thread, or ramp/AMT one...
 
Kev3188 said:
You should probably take that arrow out of your quiver unless you plan to stay out of any labor-related thread, or ramp/AMT one...
I'll be happy to as soon as the moderators delete threads that involve personal attacks by 700 and others and also 700 keeps me out of the conversation.
 
WorldTraveler said:
You again are sticking your nose into a subject that you know nothing about in order to try to defame me.

DL has a system and domestic RASM premium.

and specific to this topic, DL is redeploying 767s from int'l flying in order to add 767s to JFK-SFO where 3 of the 8 flights will be on 767s providing the only widebody service in the JFK-SFO market.
 
This is not specific to the topic.
 
But since you do bring it up:  wasn't it too much wide body domestic flying, among other things, that landed 'mighty' DL in bankruptcy?  Well, since DL is an afterthought on the transcons with dirt-cheap low fares (speaking of superior DL revenue), it has to try something, anything, to remain relevant and not be relegated to a niche carrier (#3) in that market and as a result die (WTs own theory).
 
Please spin away!
 
yes it absolutely is specific to the topic.

DL is redeploying widebody capacity where it can generate the highest profits. that is what profit-motivated companies do.

DL was flying dozens of widebodies from ATL to Florida.

and there was widebody service from JFK to LAX and SFO but AA decided to use 321s instead. DL clearly believes the market can absorb more seats and cargo capacity which can be operated more efficiently with larger aircraft.

and at the same time, as the airline with the most frequent schedules in the JFK-LAX market, AA's schedule advantage shrinks as DL adds more flights, more seats, and has cargo capacity - which has resulted in DL carrying 2.5 million pounds of cargo per month.
 
WorldTraveler said:
I'll be happy to as soon as the moderators delete threads that involve personal attacks by 700 and others and also 700 keeps me out of the conversation.
 
How about you?  Will you stop with your personal attacks on posters that do not buy your tales of DL grandeur?  Care to explain of how you purposefully tried to smear eolesen's name/reputation all over the web because he disagreed with your tales of DL grandeur?  Care to explain how you have threatened to snitch on several current DL employees on these boards because they have not agreed with your view on the labor/management relationship?
 
Yeah, I thought so.
 
Spin away!
 
WorldTraveler said:
and there was widebody service from JFK to LAX and SFO but AA decided to use 321s instead. DL clearly believes the market can absorb more seats and cargo capacity which can be operated more efficiently with larger aircraft.

and at the same time, as the airline with the most frequent schedules in the JFK-LAX market, AA's schedule advantage shrinks as DL adds more flights, more seats, and has cargo capacity - which has resulted in DL carrying 2.5 million pounds of cargo per month.
 
Remind us again what the average fare is that DL pulls on the transcons compared to UA, AA, B6.
 
You know what they say about the #3 carrier in any  market?  Doomed!!!!
 
and yet DL carries the most revenue including revenue per flight. and DL also carries thousands of dollars in cargo revenue per widebody flight.

apparently average fare isn't the only statistic that matters, esp. when DL's CASM is probably the lowest of all carriers and certainly lower than AA's.

and DL is the largest carrier in the JFK-LAX and SFO markets.

AA's premium strategy only works as long as capacity in the market doesn't grow. apparently DL doesn't think that AA's strategy is best for DL and neither does B6 which is adding premium seats to the JFK transcons as fast as AA can pull them.

perhaps it is AA who is doomed with a strategy that sent UA packing with DL and B6 ready to add seats to replace what UA is removing, including redeploying int'l 767s to the JFK transcon markets and leave the LHR flying to VS.
 
Yes leave it to Virgin, because they couldnt make it work.   And any insight of which slots DL will pull from EWR for the JFK slot swap with UA?
 
no, there is no indication of what DL will change at EWR if anything changes at all.

The most significant part of DL's schedule at EWR which is unique was its 3 int'l 767 flights from another carrier's hubs which exists at no other hub in the US. DL will still have AMS and CDG which operate on DL metal although with reduced schedules in the winter.
 
WorldTraveler said:
no, there is no indication of what DL will change at EWR if anything changes at all.
 
Only DL can surrender slots at a slot-controlled airport and still make no changes at all to its schedule.
 
Do you really expect people to believe anything you type?
 
WorldTraveler said:
DL is redeploying widebody capacity where it can generate the highest profits. that is what profit-motivated companies do.

and at the same time, as the airline with the most frequent schedules in the JFK-LAX market, AA's schedule advantage shrinks as DL adds more flights, more seats, and has cargo capacity - which has resulted in DL carrying 2.5 million pounds of cargo per month.
 
 
It's fascinating to see the double standards on full display.
It is OK to measure DL on capacity on one hand (JFK-LAX), but at the same time in a market like LAX-HND capacity (DL=767 AA=777) does not matter, it is apparently the average fare.
Which is it?
Can you make up your mind?
Or do you type so much BS on a daily basis that even you can't keep up with what you write.  (I guess you don't have enough mental horsepower to grasp the content of your contradictory posts).
 
Oh, just so I don't forget:  are you going to post the wonderful fares that DL is getting on the transcons compared to others (AA, UA, B6, VS)?
 
Spin away!
 
FrugalFlyerv2.0 said:
How about you?  Will you stop with your personal attacks on posters that do not buy your tales of DL grandeur?  Care to explain of how you purposefully tried to smear eolesen's name/reputation all over the web because he disagreed with your tales of DL grandeur?  Care to explain how you have threatened to snitch on several current DL employees on these boards because they have not agreed with your view on the labor/management relationship?
 
Yeah, I thought so.
 
Spin away!
Yeah, don't hold your breath waiting. Winning at any cost seems to be a repeated pattern of behavior, not the exception.

It's much easier and far less frustrating to just ignore rather than engage someone surrounded by an alternate reality.
 
Or you could just admit that DL is now the largest carrier in the JFK transcon markets and has a presence to LHR on its own metal that now makes DL's LHR station among the largest among US carrier international cities.
 
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