Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[EastUS1]

I have no idea how they would get around it but if they want it that bad it must have great value. I remember when some alpa reps told us that Wolf wanted the ability to fly all those RJ's "just in case" but RJ's were just a fad and would go away.How did that work?

Indeed sir, yet some still seem to never learn around here, which I can only hope won't prove to be too many, this time around.

 

[Phoenix]

You misunderstand why we get that 13.5%

I understand your desire to leverage the situation, but you're hanging your hat on a pipe dream.

I said congratulations asshowl.. When I come tell you to give up something you already have in your contract then you are welcome to come be an asshowl on our section of the forum.

 

[Claxon]

HA!! Really? You've been providing Doug Parker with record profits and RECORD ON TIME PERFORMANCE all the while on LOA 93!!!! You're getting a 30+ dollar per hour raise and NOW you're going to burn the house down? You must live in an very interesting world...one where you think you actually matter.

Ask your mentors about this. I can not help you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5t5aE0iW4o

 

[Claxon]

"So here’s Max and I trying to slither off to our apartments through this rather unfriendly group of Federation pilots with their wives and kids. Well, that’s unfair. The pilots and children were actually fairly civil. You could talk to the pilots. Their wives, however, made their run-ins at the waterline. Fortunately, there weren’t too many of them.
I suppose they were experimenting with the tactic of making themselves look pitiful. They dragged their children around with them and planted them in front of you if you tried to move.
Well, what can one say? It was an interesting technique, but you could tell that the kids would really rather have been someplace else at the time.
In fact it was kind of hard to keep from laughing, but with 50+ of them and two of us there were some subliminal inhibitions against it."

So you america west pilots laughed at the women and children? The creditors will love this story.


http://scabsr.us/duw1.htm

 

[Metroyet]

Indeed sir, yet some still seem to never learn around here, which I can only hope won't prove to be too many, this time around.

MOU passes by a landslide. I promise.

 

[Claxon]

Scabs!

 

[Claxon]

MOU passes by a landslide. I promise.

Scab!

 

[Pi brat]

Yup,
If a merger occurs, you'll get to meet those 30-40 guys that are on C&R daily.... They're on the union bulletin board as well as APC.

Flying the line and face to face interaction tells a vastly different story..

Well, I've flown with guys that never heard anyone else's opinion, and based on your previous posts, I kind of think you are in that boat. But, you may be right. If so, we need to replace the APA, don't we?

 

[prechilill]

Ah, I get it. You want Crimi in on the debate, but ONLY if he agrees with your point of view. Otherwise, he should shut up.

The point is Criminal is a side show, he has no substance to his arguments and thus defaults to attacks and biased opinions to anyone who will listen in an effort to get his "ideas" out. He is a typical loser in every respect. That's why he is outside and that's why the only audience he has are outside listening to him.

 

[Claxon]

MOU passes by a landslide. I promise.

http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/aviation/pd89_document.htm

 

[Pi brat]

The West didn't have a CoC that DUI wast hell bent on taking away.

True. But PHX, this isn't ALPA telling us it's a good deal. It's the CLT reps, it's our USAPA officers, the attorney's we hired. Who would you trust on this?

 

[Claxon]

The point is Criminal is a side show, he has no substance to his arguments and thus defaults to attacks and biased opinions to anyone who will listen in an effort to get his "ideas" out. He is a typical loser in every respect. That's why he is outside and that's why the only audience he has are outside listening to him.

scab!
http://articles.latimes.com/print/1989-10-30/business/fi-125_1_airline-america-west

 

[traderjake]

I said congratulations asshowl..

Making some new friends?

 

[Piedmont1984]

767one
Are you done with flying? Or do you miss any of it? I read an interesting article about the high demand for pilots in China. This year Bejing will eclipse ATL as the busiest airport in the world. You can take the man out of the 767, but you can't take the 767 out of the man.

Pi brat

Good to hear from you. Perhaps we need to start a petition to have the MOU re-written in plain English, no lawyerspeak, even a caveman can understand.

 

[EastUS1]

Perhaps we need to start a petition to have the MOU re-written in plain English, no lawyerspeak, even a caveman can understand.

Amen! Cleaning up the laughably vague (were it not so potentially tragic) language, would at least be a good start. Again; I'll note that there's just no reasonable need to rush into immediately accepting this thing, whatever anyone's final decision is to be.