Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Ames]

Agreed, but then....I'm not the one here bemoaning the lack of presumably significant eye contact with other males while walking though airports....just sayin'... Umm...Is that some sort of "spartan" thing, or what?

Spartans, t-shirts, dog fight. Got it. You reside in Myopia.

 

[nycbusdriver]

You are truly delusional.

From the "spartan."

Or is the "knight' tonight?

Or "dire wolf?"

And you call ME delusional?

 

[EastUS1]

Ames: Did you ever notice that most west pilots will look you in the eye when passing by? Probably not because none of you will meet our gaze. Try looking us in the eye.

Ames: No, scumbag. I can count on my fingers how many times an easthole actually looked me in the eye.

Spartans, t-shirts, dog fight. Got it. You reside in Myopia.

Well son...at least I ain't fretfully struttin' around any airports trying for any meaningful eye contact with male, complete strangers... Again: Is that some sort of "spartan" thing, or what?

 

[EastUS1]

That said: Trust me, .....

Umm...Sure thing kid, no problem there at all I'm not much certain I'd have ever trusted nor had any use for you as anything other than a chock. Your situational "awareness", just by it's self, is notable only by it's absence. It must be fairly noted that your math skills are most impressive though = Ames: "I can count on my fingers..."

 

[EastUS1]

From the "spartan."

Or is the "knight' tonight?

Or "dire wolf?"

And you call ME delusional?

You've overlooked the possibility that your addressing one of their "wizards", perhaps even "Larry Potta" himself, who also resides within the mighty west's Arsenal of Assinine Adolescents.

 

[EastUS1]

We sure showed that company and bankruptcy judge who the boss was last time, didn't we?

You utterly pathetic little lamb. One question only here: Is the firm you work for currently in bankruptcy?...NO?...Oh!...Then I guess your entire "point" here...is....uh...well?

 

[Walmartgreeter]

NY said: " Well, it's too late now. The train has left the station, and is accelerating toward yet another wreck, IMHO. The reps were bullied into a false deadline (where have we seen THAT before), and were cleverly manipulated into a unanimous vote to submit the MOU to the membership with advice to vote "Yes."

In the process of doing that, we will once again, as a group, give away what little leverage we have (scope) for a lot of iffy promises and vague language. If, as Parker and Kirby have often said, that the east scope language can be easily overcome, then WHY was it necessary to have us waive it at all?

It's a "pig in a poke," and we will once again get a deal which could have been much better for us had we stuck to our guns. "

The reps were not "bullied" into anything, all they are doing it giving you, the line pilot, a chance to vote on a business proposal. The other four parties in this proposal indeed created deadlines, and we are under no obligation to honor or even react to them. But the rational majority at USAPA said you at least deserve a chance to give your vote in case you wanted to go along willingly as a participant in the ride, or kicking and screaming later with none of the benefits for playing ball.

We are not in BK, our Company seems reasonably successful, and we have some pretty good protections. Trouble is those protections are supporting the continuation of a BK contract on our property. At great political expense (and indeed the CLT reps were played beautifully, talk about a train wreck of self importance!) this offer was brought to you to vote on by a unanimous consensus. The making of the sausage will be stuff of legend, but you probably won't hear the truth for a long time. That's ok, we are voting.

If you do not like the MOU, vote no. But how dare you act as if the very decision of allowing our own pilots to vote is bad. If you vote no and the rest of us (over 80%) vote yes, then you are in a simple minority. Personally, I am not willing to "stick by our guns" when that means status quo. The East scope language has no value outside a merger. If you think a train leaving the station is all of us having a vote, then you are in for a rude awakening. Go ahead and say it, you think the rest of us are too stupid to vote correctly.

Greeter

 

[EastUS1]

From the "spartan."

Or is the "knight' tonight?

Or "dire wolf?"

And you call ME delusional?

I understand and share your frustration, after all; it's entirely unfair of any west "spartans" et al, to ever expect any of us to measure up to such beacons of "rational maturity" and certainly "intelligence", as are universally found within their own proud ranks, umm...in the "army" of Leonidas/Wersteross/Hogwarts or whatever-the-hell-their-latest, astoundingly infantile, bizzare little fantasies dictate.



...And yes folks...that creature's supposedly a "Professional Pilot"...."Dire Wolf" T-shirt and all....

 

[Graceson]

They are now members of the only scab union around....ucapa.

Ansett Australia pilots are scabs? And they are now members of usapa?

 

[mrbreeze]

Did you ever notice that most west pilots will look you in the eye when passing by? Probably not because none of you will meet our gaze. Try looking us in the eye. What you will see in our eyes is us saying "kiss my ass". We have been saying it to you for nearly six years but most of you are too weak to notice.

Most West pilots I run into usually return a "hello" or some king of decent greeting.

However, with you, Ames, I will recognize you by your pissed off glare, coming from a punk who is whining about losing something that he never owned. You have lost nothing, but, hell yes, you will try to screw your fellow pilots. The other West pilots aren't like you.

breeze

 

[Claxon]

Desperate postings for desperate time Claxon/Apollo/Sumadarson? Keep clicking those ruby red shoes.

Be careful, you may vote yourselves out of PHX for a few shekels. AA has a lot of parking to do with MD 80 s. Didn't think about that did you........

 

[dca319]

Be careful, you may vote yourselves out of PHX for a few shekels. AA has a lot of parking to do with MD 80 s. Didn't think about that did you........

They're all being replaced by Airbuses and other Boeings. Didn't you know that?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/business/global/american-places-record-order-with-2-jet-makers.html?_r=0

 

[Ames]

Most West pilots I run into usually return a "hello" or some king of decent greeting.

However, with you, Ames, I will recognize you by your pissed off glare, coming from a punk who is whining about losing something that he never owned. You have lost nothing, but, hell yes, you will try to screw your fellow pilots. The other West pilots aren't like you.

breeze

I don't recall whining about losing anything. Oh, by the way, do you know how southern girls say "bless your heart" when they really mean something else? That's the friendly greeting you're getting from westies. You won't see many of us, including myself, looking pissed off because we're usually enjoying our jobs and the people we work with. It will continue to be a good thing until we have to start working with you eastholes - especially twirps like yourself.

 

[Ames]

From the "spartan."

Or is the "knight' tonight?

Or "dire wolf?"

And you call ME delusional?

Yep!

 

[Ames]

Ames: Did you ever notice that most west pilots will look you in the eye when passing by? Probably not because none of you will meet our gaze. Try looking us in the eye.

Ames: No, scumbag. I can count on my fingers how many times an easthole actually looked me in the eye.



Well son...at least I ain't fretfully struttin' around any airports trying for any meaningful eye contact with male, complete strangers... Again: Is that some sort of "spartan" thing, or what?

No, not a "spartan" thing. I pegged you right, though. One of those weak, pathetic looking eastholes looking down at his shoes.