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Shocking that there would be negative comments. What are the concerns?hp-csr-phx said:Mostly negative comments for the TA on facebook. Scope and insurance are the main issues.
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Shocking that there would be negative comments. What are the concerns?hp-csr-phx said:Mostly negative comments for the TA on facebook. Scope and insurance are the main issues.
eolesen said:Shocking that there would be negative comments. What are the concerns?
Yay!, what were the selling points? Was it the outsourcing of Baggage Service? How about the outsourcing of all curbside work? I know, I bet i was the expanded CAR duties that will take away agent jobs at the ticket counter? Hmmm, how about the vendors taking check bags down the jetways, or vendors behind the ticket counter lifting bags? Maybe it was that outsourcing in CLT and PHL of all the UM's and wheelchairs? I'm sure our members that currently do that work won't mind. You know what I enjoyed, was changing our current contract restricting the company from outsourcing cities with14 mainline flights a week to 35 flights a week in the new TA, that's just swell. And of course, that cherry on the ice cream, the absolutely horrendous AA healthcare we will all be on in 2017.
MORE ..... Here's one of the major problems with this TA, and what doesn't seem like much is the change of CAR duties. If you look at the AA ticket model you will see the Kiosks, Activation centers, and Resolution centers. The CARs will work the Kiosks, and the activation centers. Only the Resolution centers will be staffed by Agents. On the AA model, depending on the size of your ticket counter, there can be multiple Activation centers, but in most cases only one Resolution center. There will be many more CAR jobs on the counter than agent jobs. Cars with this new TA can have an ATAC, and collect fees. CARs are no longer restricted to certain cities. In the new TA, all cities can have CARs. So, I will use one of my local's cities as example. BUF has no CARs at the present time. Say they have about 6 agents on the ticket counter during a shift. The company decides to staff the BUF counter with 1 agent at the Resolution center, and 5 CARs at the Kiosks and Activation centers. What happens to those 5 ticket counter agents? Well no furlough sounds great right? They will have the option to transfer to another station, take a lower paying position as a CAR, or refuse the position, and be put on the street. Sounds great Huh? Never mind the outsourcing of BSO, wheelchairs, curbside, and UM's, and let's be clear what we are talking about, "Vendors." The outsourcing language for curbside is, "ALL curbside work." There are no restrictions on what the vendors due on the curbside. The company could put 10 Kiosks on the curb with vendors. How many jobs will that take from the ticket counter? You may not have curbside right now, but it is currently protected work. The TA also allows vendors behind the ticket counter to lift bags, and at the gates to carry check baggage down the jetways, so there are quite a few vendors in this TA, despite the claim of getting rid of redcoats.
You knew this was coming right? I mean for real, this should not have been a surprise at all, I'm from ROC and AA ramp and agents gave way to the lesser, American Eagle 15+ years ago, and this was just one, not to mention what the agents and ramp gave up in bankruptcy. People of US, it's time for your haircut, and yes, there will be pain.usa1 said:
Havent you applied for management yet?bob@las-AA said:You knew this was coming right? I mean for real, this should not have been a surprise at all, I'm from ROC and AA ramp and agents gave way to the lesser, American Eagle 15+ years ago, and this was just one, not to mention what the agents and ramp gave up in bankruptcy. People of US, it's time for your haircut, and yes, there will be pain.
Don't need to.700UW said:Havent you applied for management yet?
AA is posting record profits, no one should take any cuts in a new CBA.
You are so anti-worker its pathetic.
And this means nothing to me, your limited, at best, ability to compose a sentence that does not contain the words700UW said:Dude your funny, you have eight years I had 20, was a rep and negotiated two different contracts one with US and one with CO.
You are clueless on labor-management relationships.
Here's one of the major problems with this TA, and what doesn't seem like much is the change of CAR duties. If you look at the AA ticket model you will see the Kiosks, Activation centers, and Resolution centers. The CARs will work the Kiosks, and the activation centers. Only the Resolution centers will be staffed by Agents. On the AA model, depending on the size of your ticket counter, there can be multiple Activation centers, but in most cases only one Resolution center. There will be many more CAR jobs on the counter than agent jobs. Cars with this new TA can have an ATAC, and collect fees. CARs are no longer restricted to certain cities. In the new TA, all cities can have CARs. So, I will use one of my local's cities as example. BUF has no CARs at the present time. Say they have about 6 agents on the ticket counter during a shift. The company decides to staff the BUF counter with 1 agent at the Resolution center, and 5 CARs at the Kiosks and Activation centers. What happens to those 5 ticket counter agents? Well no furlough sounds great right? They will have the option to transfer to another station, take a lower paying position as a CAR, or refuse the position, and be put on the street. Sounds great Huh? Never mind the outsourcing of BSO, wheelchairs, curbside, and UM's, and let's be clear what we are talking about, "Vendors." The outsourcing language for curbside is, "ALL curbside work." There are no restrictions on what the vendors due on the curbside. The company could put 10 Kiosks on the curb with vendors. How many jobs will that take from the ticket counter? You may not have curbside right now, but it is currently protected work. The TA also allows vendors behind the ticket counter to lift bags, and at the gates to carry check baggage down the jetways, so there are quite a few vendors in this TA, despite the claim of getting rid of redcoats.
American Airlines management came to the table with several goals: to cut labor costs by closing more than 30 small stations, to gut our scope of work language, and to eliminate our job security protections. We fought back, and with support from members who mobilized throughout the system, we were able to save all 30 of the stations the company wanted to contract out. We secured double protections for Baggage Service employees by providing No Furlough and No Displacement protections. And we kept important job security provisions in the new agreement.
That's what happens when there's a lack of accountability on both the union and managements part. See it daily!usa1 said:
In red .... I want to seeing the "exact wording" in the tentative agreement.
By the way, LAA has the worst baggage service in the industry, worse than United. Delta service is kicking their butt, why would the new company want to double down on what's not working for them now?