CWA Labor Discussion 2/12---Labor Issues for CSRs ONLY

[SparrowHawk]

That would be the Change To Win coalition.

Originally, it was 5: SEIU, UNITE, HERE (both now merged together), UBC (carpenter's union), and LIUNA

They are now joined by the IBT & UFCW

So in theory it would be possible for the CWA to be voted out as outlined by 700UW as Dog Wonder's rebuttal would not apply as long as it was a "Change to Win" affiliated Union.

 

[wench1]

Let prefice by making it pubic, what is happening in our small station.
New bid posted, full times regular hours.
Part time, all 20 hrs per week across the board..POSTED>

Bid Selection CAME OUT< (This cut was NOT on the bid), Monday, only went from 4.0 hrs to 3.5 with 30 MINUTES OF UNPAID LUNCH!

This is a grievable offense!!!

Station's way of getting rid of senior agents..

I advised who it affected to call Union Rep--This is BOHICA!!!!

They cannot change once it has been posted..

 

[Dog Wonder]

So in theory it would be possible for the CWA to be voted out as outlined by 700UW as Dog Wonder's rebuttal would not apply as long as it was a "Change to Win" affiliated Union.

In theory it may be possible.

In reality, finding a union willing to raid another union's members is not going to happen.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

At some point here, I think that both the CSA and Fleet groups need to consider being represented under a single union. Prior to either group becoming unionized, each classification had the same basic work rules, benefits,senoirity, and pay. Today there are many differences including the outsourcing issues on the Fleet side. I for one preferred the days when you could move back and forth from CS to Fleet whenever there was an open psotion.

Agreed. Many feel that the CSA group has more in common with the ramp than with res. Many also feel that CWA represents res more than the airport group.

 

[john john]

Agreed. Many feel that the CSA group has more in common with the ramp than with res. Many also feel that CWA represents res more than the airport group.

The IAM ramp contract past and present
NO THANKS

 

[Old PSA]

The National Mediation Board is tasked with providing governance for union representation at railroads and airlines. They set who is in and who isn't when the unit is created. The company and union can only "suggest" what it should be. The NMB seems to follow precedents closely without regard to current structures in the airlines. Back in the '30s, '40s and '50s, most airlines operated on a local basis with the airport staff overlapping or being the reservations staff. With the advent of computers, the business migrated to central reservations offices with separate staffs. The NMB is still using the old model.

When PSA (the original) was unionized, it was not considered to be an airline since it was not governed by the CAB. It was governed by the State of California Public Utilities Commission. Therefore, the NMB did not have jurisdiction, the National Labor Relation Board did, just like just about every other business. Because of this the makeup of the bargaining unit was done through meetings of the union involved, the company and the NLRB. At PSA, the airport employees were put into one unit that included the outside and inside employees. Reservations was later unionized as a separate unit by itself. When deregulation came along, the NMB assumed jurisdiction but the deregulation law included some language concerning "grandfathering" and the makeup of the bargaining units were left alone. It was not until US Air bought PSA that this was changed by the NMB which follow their own precedents in described the bargaining units makeup.

The chances of the NMB changing its mind in this area seem somewhat slim but you never know, they did change the voting rules so their is always hope.

 

[700UW]

The IAM ramp contract past and present
NO THANKS

The ramp has a pension, cant say the same for the agents.

 

[wings396]

The IAM ramp contract past and present
NO THANKS

Did you actually read my post that this reply was intended for prior to your comment? I stated the both groups should be covered under one contract with an all together DIFFERENT Union, excluding the CWA & IAM. A fresh start for all of us with a combined contract is what we all need.

 

[john john]

The ramp has a pension, cant say the same for the agents.

A lot of customer service agents would not have a job if they fell under the IAM CBA. To have any sizable amount in the IAM pension multiplier plan you have to have contributed a long time to the IAM.

 

[wings396]

The ramp has a pension, cant say the same for the agents.

As far as I know they still have a 401K plan. While the IAM pension plan is decent, you need to remember that most of us got into it too late in our careers to reap the full benefits of it. For those in Fleet that were hired just before or after the IAM plan started in 2003, it will serve them well if they stay with the company for the long term. Sadly those of us that gave up the most during the 2 BK's won't be around long enough to make out very well.
Many of us were already at or past the halfway mark in our career when the IAM plan started. Too bad they couldn't have found a way to combine their plan with the original plan that we had up until 1992. At this point many of us have that plan that was frozen, the 401K that was terminated in 2003, and the IAM plan that started in 2003.
I for one would love to have the outsourcing protection alone that the CWA has. As we all know over 20 stations were outsourced on the Fleet side in 2005, and to date all of them are staffed with Mainline CWA employees that kept their jobs without having to relocate. Last, but not least was the infamous 60 day rule that was only imposed upon ONE work group, which just happened to be the IAM FSA group.

 

[john john]

As we all know over 20 stations were outsourced on the Fleet side in 2005, and to date all of them are staffed with Mainline CWA employees that kept their jobs without having to relocate. Last, but not least was the infamous 60 day rule that was only imposed upon ONE work group, which just happened to be the IAM FSA group.

Don’t forget the hourly wage for non-hub ramp agents $15.00+ hr
It was 26 stations the company outsourced on the ramp to help kept catering in PHL
CWA also has a snap back in their CBA in 2012

 

[john john]

I stated the both groups should be covered under one contract with an all together DIFFERENT Union, excluding the CWA & IAM.

What union do you suggest the company would whipsaw the inside agents against the outside agents in any joint negotiations going forward

 

[hp-csr-phx]

Does anyone know what our salary will be with the snap backs in 2012?

 

[john john]

Does anyone know what our salary will be with the snap backs in 2012?

Pay increases: -
1/1/2009 3.0% increase
- 1/1/2010 4.0% increase
- 1/1/2011 4.0% increase
- 1/1/2012 2.0% Increase


Snap Backs
1. Sick Leave and Pay 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
2. Holidays back to 10 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
3. Premiums - Shift and Job 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
4. Travel, training and per diem 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
5. Holiday premium hours worked 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
6. Holiday Option II and Pay 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
7. Customer Contact Premium (increase) 12/31/11 CBA as of 12/13/1999
8. Vacation Accrual/Schedule
12/31/11
When
Employees
begin their
Monthly
Accrual

Maximum
Yearly
Accrual

1st year of
service 1.0 days 10 days
10th year
of service 1.5 days 15 days
20th year
of service 2.0 days 20 days
25th year
of service 2.5 days 25 days

 

[Lilly]

This was one the few grievances that Velvet has brought to arbitration. She was poorly prepared, brought no witnesses, and the company ate her lunch. She has no business being in that position, but Cohen and the CWA don't care. She will be negotiating your new contract.

This happened to quite a few agents in my former station. Furloughed in Feb, 2010. When we merged with HP their agents made out like bandits. In the first year, some of these agents were making an extra $5.00 an hour while the east agents got royally screwed!!!! Why isn't the union doing anything about the short staffing since last years lay offs?( September and Feb). The union needs to get a pettion going about the current working conditions. They need to sit down and negotiate about bringing some furloughed agents back. Since I don't have anything important to do now. I will start talking to the union president of this station to get somthing going..... <_<