Crude oil at $225 by 2012, gas at $7 per gallon!

I would be very surprised if Israel goes anywhere near Iran much less before the elections. No idea if it would be good or bad for Obama but I am pretty sure no one wants an all out war in the ME which is what I think will happen if Israel launches a preemptive. The US would have to get involved, the rest of the ME would have to take Irans side because the alternative is to side with the Jews and we all know that is not going to happen even though a few of the countries leaders would probably prefer to be on the winning side. Europe would be forced to join in and they will join in with Israel and the US because they don't want to be on the side of the Arabs who they cannot trust.

It would be a huge cluster screw that would make Iraq and Afghan look like a preschool scrap. Iran is a very mountainous region. Air strikes will not win it. Boots will have to put on the ground and unlike Iraq, Iran has a pretty well trained military. They have the home court advantage and they have an entire nation of people who don't like Amadinderjacket but they like us, all o us a lot less. Short of using nukes which I doubt will happen unless Iran or someone else uses them first, it would be a long drawn out war with no end in sight.

I hope Israel and the US are smart enough not to do anything stupid but these are politicians involved. Most of the idiots in the US have never seen combat and have no skin in the game (think Cheney and Bush) so they are more likely to be stupid and go in with out a plan. The Israelis have been doing this for along time and I would bet pennies to dollars that they are just making Iran sweat, if only a little. Is Israel really crazy enough to do this? Entebbe? Iraq 1981? Hmmmm. They might or they might not. Do we feel lucky?

As a matter of fact, what's the Obama admin military service record by the way?

Israel will go in......we wouldn't be putting 3 flat tops in the gulf if it wasn't going to hit the fan.

Don't believe what you hear in the news media regarding Israel and US intentions.

You should pay attention to Turkey and the Saud's and what is going to go down with this ME move towards an Islamic Caliphate.....it is coming sooner rather than later.

Then a large portion of the worlds oil supply could be not sold to the US and there won't be much we can do about it, aside from drill baby drill which you and I can sit around and wait for 13 years.

If that happens, the US will not be able to defend the Strait for very long.

Have a nice day.
 
Just Curious what regiment was Barack assigned to? Oh wait he wasn't. Now then ask who of the candidates today actually served? I didn't and I've explained why.

My ancestors all served and served proudly. Grand dad was with Pershing. Uncle was 3rd Army Corp, 90th Infantry Division, 357th Infantry Battalion under the command of General George Patton. Dad was Company B, 1st Ordnance Training Regiment later assigned to the Army of Occupation in Yokohama, Japan.

Opps my bad, where was it Obama served? Did he fly in the Air National Guard like Bush? Oh wait he was yet another piss ant college kid like Newt, Rick and Mitt.
What the hell is that post about? Snap out of it man. :blink:
 
If war breaks out in the middle east that prediction could come true. According to Paneta, Israel will eliminate Iran's nuclear facilities this spring absent a change of heart by the Iranians, and that could be the trigger. Y'all do know that 25% of the world's oil supply passes through the Strait of Hormuz.

Jim


I'm nervous about 3 task force groups in the Gulf.......I got Pearl Harbor vibes.

2012 is the year the 12th Imadi returns BTW.
 
As a matter of fact, what's the Obama admin military service record by the way?

Israel will go in......we wouldn't be putting 3 flat tops in the gulf if it wasn't going to hit the fan.

Don't believe what you hear in the news media regarding Israel and US intentions.

You should pay attention to Turkey and the Saud's and what is going to go down with this ME move towards an Islamic Caliphate.....it is coming sooner rather than later.

Then a large portion of the worlds oil supply could be not sold to the US and there won't be much we can do about it, aside from drill baby drill which you and I can sit around and wait for 13 years.

If that happens, the US will not be able to defend the Strait for very long.

Have a nice day.

Obama never put boots on the ground anywhere. He never committed troops to a war(s). That happened because they never served and did not listen to those who who did.

I do not believe serving is or should be a requirement to be POTUS. But if you are going to be gung ho about war like Bush and Cheney were, I think it would be nice if they knew what they were talking about. They put other people kids in the line of fire and did not give a rats ass that it was all for nothing.
 
Obama never put boots on the ground anywhere. He never committed troops to a war(s). That happened because they never served and did not listen to those who who did.

I do not believe serving is or should be a requirement to be POTUS. But if you are going to be gung ho about war like Bush and Cheney were, I think it would be nice if they knew what they were talking about. They put other people kids in the line of fire and did not give a rats ass that it was all for nothing.

I understand, but you should have some kickass advisers who been there and listen to them like he doesn't.
What president when tasked, doesn't put peoples kids in harms way. I think in this case, Obama will to a limited degree and it will end up biting us in the ass.

Obama did increase boots.....
 
Drenched in Green: Data Catapult Nasdaq to 11-Year High



Record 1.2 Million People Fall Out Of Labor Force In One Month, Labor Force Participation Rate Tumbles To Fresh 30 Year Low

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Stuff like this makes you seriously question the intelligence of those around you. People eat up the propaganda that the unemployment rate is dropping, but try explaining the above facts to them. They will stare at you like the famous doe in the headlights picture Tyler shares with us from time to time. The average person is so freakin' ignorant about how these numbers are generated, and trying to explain it to them is a waste of your time. It's maddening!
 
Record 1.2 Million People Fall Out Of Labor Force In One Month, Labor Force Participation Rate Tumbles To Fresh 30 Year Low

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dell,
I believe I heard today that the U-R was now down to 8.3%. .4% to go , to the magic # of UNDER 8%.
dell, wouldn't that be something if it WAS 7.9% right around 11/2012 !

Life is Good/LEAN FORWARD !
 
dell,
I believe I heard today that the U-R was now down to 8.3%. .4% to go , to the magic # of UNDER 8%.
dell, wouldn't that be something if it WAS 7.9% right around 11/2012 !

Life is Good/LEAN FORWARD !

63% work force, lowest since 1983. Government is no longer counting those that gave up looking for work which is at a record high. The UR rate is a cooked number.
 
dell,
I believe I heard today that the U-R was now down to 8.3%. .4% to go , to the magic # of UNDER 8%.
dell, wouldn't that be something if it WAS 7.9% right around 11/2012 !

Life is Good/LEAN FORWARD !


Yeah, 68 people in each county here got work.....things could turn back to normal in about ten years.....cool....unemployment for ten years.
 
Did any of Ya'All notice the article was posted in 2008??? Gas won't be $7 a gallon this summer, in fact it won't be $5 a gallon either. Why? Because obummer wants to get re-elected. $5 gas = no more obummer....
Wait - I'd be willing to pay $5 this summer if it would get that clown out of office!
 

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