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We already have pipelines from canada. One already operating terminates at the refineries in Wood River, IL, and another refinery a bit east, also in IL.
We will in all probability have another, all the way to the gulf coast refineries.
Which pipeline is more likely to supply oil to US customers, and which is more likely to be used to supply oil product to the world market?
With the further review mandated by a responsible administration, this version of the new pipeline will not endanger, at least as badly, a major upper midwest aquifer. (Those folks in the upper plains states that were worried about their water quality, and livelihoods, are not typically left leaning, or radicals... Btw...)
The shale oil will then be conveniently staged where it can be shipped Anywhere In The World. even, and especially, to China.
Allowing a Canadian company to build a pipeline to the gulf coast refineries benefits the Canadian oil co, the Canadian pipeline co, the Refineries' Owners, the shipping companies, the commodities traders, the Chinese, and even OPEC, by enabling the cheapest way to get the product to The World Market.
Subsidized by the US taxpayer.
Don't pretend that it directly benefits the US consumer, with lower prices, or that it will necessarily lessen our imports of foreign oil.
We will get our oil from where the commodities traders decide to buy it from, and the US sellers buy it from. That will be whatever makes them the most money.
If we pump more, OPEC pumps less, pushing up their price while conserving their only major export, and their only major leverage.
Lower prices, that do not reflect the actual cost of Ensuring Safe Transit -since those costs are so graciously picked up by the US taxpayer, in the name of "defense" - only prolong our dependence on fossil fuels and inhibit those natural market forces which would push development of alternative energy sources, for those use where they are appropriate.
Forget about any national energy policy. We had our warning in the 70's. Forty years later, and we have... Nothing. Or not much. What we do have, and every attempt to create something responsible, is attacked and opposed by vociferous reactionaries financed by Big Oil.
They have been wrong at every turn. When mileage and smog standards were implemented, the troglodytes screamed that cars would never run right and would be undriveable, unuseable, and unsafe. Now we have a wide range of safer, cleaner, more driveable, and higher value cars than anyone could have imagined. A Caddy that gets 30mpg? A Mustang that performs like a track car and gets better mpg than a VW bug? How many lives have been saved by airbags, ABS, improvements in handling, etc? Cars that are just getting broken in at 100,000 miles? Seriously?
I am not against oil, the oil companies, or the pipeline.
I am against stupid bumper sticker sized sound bytes (drill here, Drill now, Pay less...) masquerading as policy, or wisdom. And, proponents of corporate welfare and subsidies for their pet projects or profit centers who call themselves conservatives.
We will in all probability have another, all the way to the gulf coast refineries.
Which pipeline is more likely to supply oil to US customers, and which is more likely to be used to supply oil product to the world market?
With the further review mandated by a responsible administration, this version of the new pipeline will not endanger, at least as badly, a major upper midwest aquifer. (Those folks in the upper plains states that were worried about their water quality, and livelihoods, are not typically left leaning, or radicals... Btw...)
The shale oil will then be conveniently staged where it can be shipped Anywhere In The World. even, and especially, to China.
Allowing a Canadian company to build a pipeline to the gulf coast refineries benefits the Canadian oil co, the Canadian pipeline co, the Refineries' Owners, the shipping companies, the commodities traders, the Chinese, and even OPEC, by enabling the cheapest way to get the product to The World Market.
Subsidized by the US taxpayer.
Don't pretend that it directly benefits the US consumer, with lower prices, or that it will necessarily lessen our imports of foreign oil.
We will get our oil from where the commodities traders decide to buy it from, and the US sellers buy it from. That will be whatever makes them the most money.
If we pump more, OPEC pumps less, pushing up their price while conserving their only major export, and their only major leverage.
Lower prices, that do not reflect the actual cost of Ensuring Safe Transit -since those costs are so graciously picked up by the US taxpayer, in the name of "defense" - only prolong our dependence on fossil fuels and inhibit those natural market forces which would push development of alternative energy sources, for those use where they are appropriate.
Forget about any national energy policy. We had our warning in the 70's. Forty years later, and we have... Nothing. Or not much. What we do have, and every attempt to create something responsible, is attacked and opposed by vociferous reactionaries financed by Big Oil.
They have been wrong at every turn. When mileage and smog standards were implemented, the troglodytes screamed that cars would never run right and would be undriveable, unuseable, and unsafe. Now we have a wide range of safer, cleaner, more driveable, and higher value cars than anyone could have imagined. A Caddy that gets 30mpg? A Mustang that performs like a track car and gets better mpg than a VW bug? How many lives have been saved by airbags, ABS, improvements in handling, etc? Cars that are just getting broken in at 100,000 miles? Seriously?
I am not against oil, the oil companies, or the pipeline.
I am against stupid bumper sticker sized sound bytes (drill here, Drill now, Pay less...) masquerading as policy, or wisdom. And, proponents of corporate welfare and subsidies for their pet projects or profit centers who call themselves conservatives.
