Congress Or Chaos May Await Us Airways

[Res]

It gets harder going to work each day knowing they want to send my job to San Salvador....or over to India....even though over the years we have accepted the givebacks to support the survival of US. It's all about Greed...

 

[PITbull]

NO. the the goal is NOT the best "deal" possible. It is the best deal that maintains the strength of the UNION. I am offended at your inclusion in this group. Greeter. PERIOD.

[post="204366"][/post]​

[/quote]

The best deal that maintains the strength of the union would assume that there is a flourishing viable and yes profitable company for said same union to garnish its dues revenue from or did I miss something?

[post="204371"][/post]​

[/quote]

Yes Bob, you did miss something....

The airline workers won't make it financially waiting for a profitable company and waiting to renegotiate another or better deal. The airline workers don't have much to lose at all. If you don't make enough to afford medical than you have no medical. If you don't make enough to put aside in a 401k, then you have no ritirement...if you don't make enough of a wage to house yourself, then you have no house.....catching on here...Bob....???????

What this means is THE WORKERS HAVE LOST EVERYTHING ANYWAY, WHETHER THEY KEEP THE JOB OR LOSE THE JOB...IF THERE IS NO REASONABILITY THAN THESE AIRLINES MUST CLOSE. THERE IS A COST TO DOING BUSINESS AND IF THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR WORKERS...

SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!

I suggest, Bob, you get real accustomed to ground transportation! It maybe slow, but it sure as hell is reliable!

Of course fueling your vehicle may just cost you some bucks!!!!!

 

[oldiebutgoody]

I only hope the F/As and IAM don't "emasculate" themselves like the pilots did. ALPA has nothing left. UAIR is a crappy company to work for now, so I hope the pilots that voted for their "good deal" get what's coming to them. Management WILL be back for more right after the holidays. You can count on it!

 

[Schatzee]

Can I throw up right now?

[post="204377"][/post]​

Sure you can. Just don't get any on the back of A320's uniform.

 

[Winglet]

Lakefield and Bronner don't think the rank and file workers have the guts to shut the company down. As management always does, he's going to depend on the employees on the top that won't lose their jobs to convince, scare, and coherce the others to willing put themselves on the chopping block to preserve management jobs and senior-most rank and file. What they want is most of maintenance . . . . gone, almost of of Res . . . . . . gone . . . . and they want the unions to do it to themselves.

If reality is really faced . . . . expect no letup in fuel costs, no economic recovery in the airline system, continued gross overcapacity, and MUCH more pressure for more concessions just before the next "crisis" in Feburary. Siegel and his buffoons wrecked the company two years ago.

 

[deano]

If reality is really faced . . . . expect no letup in fuel costs, no economic recovery in the airline system, continued gross overcapacity, and MUCH more pressure for more concessions just before the next "crisis" in Feburary. Siegel and his buffoons wrecked the company two years ago.

[post="204461"][/post]​

YES they did and were awarded MILLIONS while all the rest of the slaughter employees are expected to eviscerate themselves because of this thing called reality. But my dear friends what reality do YOU want to live, decide and then let that be U's reality in the end.

God Speed my Ex fellow employees____Curt

 

[robbedagain]

ok so mgmt can keep their gd contracts and pay out millions to all the losers that have left their posts since 2000 but they dont have to abide by the unions' contract? boy that is what i call the most irresponsible and if the judge, atsb, congress, pres bush or whoever the he!! is in public office does side with the mgmt
without taking a closer look at what the horrendous mess that they left behind then leaving with their multi millions golden parachute, then obvisiouly no one would help the unions. it is just dirt crap how vampires like usair's mgmt is and can get away with it. it is time that soemone in the high ranking govt stand up and deliver a blow to the vampires such as usair's mgmt team. it is horrible how we the employees get treated.

 

[robbedagain]

may be it is time to shut the airline down and allow other unions willing to strike at other carriers to do so them maybe losers such as the ones running this grounded ship into the cemetery and see what the govt does!

 

[cybercat]

It gets harder going to work each day knowing they want to send my job to San Salvador....or over to India....even though over the years we have accepted the givebacks to support the survival of US. It's all about Greed...

This is all so sad, like Eastern all over again. My heart goes out to all US employees.

Cybercat

 

[usfliboi]

Pitbull... thats a load of crap! If its that bad why are you stillhere????? Why isnt there mass exodus? The folks who cant afford or OVER EXTENDED themselves, have left or they are leaving...... you know that crap doesnt wash in the machine.... The people who were having a hard time before, still are.. the folks who werent... arent.... try again with a new approach..... The new mec pres will have her feet to the fire i assure you and i for one will be lighting the match.. look after our interest not your pride!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PITbull]

Pitbull... thats a load of crap! If its that bad why are you stillhere????? Why isnt there mass exodus? The folks who cant afford or OVER EXTENDED themselves, have left or they are leaving...... you know that crap doesnt wash in the machine.... The people who were having a hard time before, still are.. the folks who werent... arent.... try again with a new approach..... The new mec pres will have her feet to the fire i assure you and i for one will be lighting the match.. look after our interest not your pride!!!!!!!!!!!!

[post="204483"][/post]​

Stuff it, Chicken little.

Many and I mean many are waiting for the T/A to vote NO...or take the "furlough package"...

the f/as dictate their own interest through their vote!
Hope you're looking for another job.

Please read the signature below.....

I'm still here...cause you're still here!!!! B)

 

[motnot]

The new GE deal requires major cost cuts to be approved no later than December 17, which is the same day the S.1113© hearing ends. This all but requires Judge Mitchell to "impose" contract modifications from the bench that day. Furthermore, the company's motion further requires the parties to abide by the RLA, which will also be court ordered and thus would prevent "self help" in the near-term, if not forever.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the GE deal requires that the deal itself be approved by December 17, and that major cost cuts be approved by Jan. 14.

I don't expect Mitchell will abrogate any union contracts until after he's back from his holiday vacation in 2005. Because the guy is probably smart enough to know what union members will do if he makes that ruling.

USA320pilot, your insistence that a strike will be prohibited is, of course, speculation. By all accounts, it's a gray area in the law, as this situation has never happened. I expect the judge to spend a great deal of time researching the law on that very issue.

Whether the judge ultimately rules that a strike is legal or not, I think the odds are high that union members will strike regardless. Will Mitchell order thousands of people arrested for contempt of court? At that point, would it even matter to the survival of the airline?

I've not seen you once address, or even acknowledge, those possibilities. As an outsider, to me, the situation looks quite dire.

 

[bobcat]

I just have one question.... that little article states that railroads and airlines can not strike because it can affect public safety. Well, how can the CWA striking affect public safety? Yea, I guess it could affect the safety of the public to be FORCED TO BOOK ON USAIRWAYS.COM. AAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

 

[usfliboi]

Huhhuh pitbull, alot of hot air and enjoying the temp spot light your in..... all talk.... im still here because i wanna be here, regardless of what some of "you" think! Is it bad? YUP! But im not shutting the baby down like you wanna.... Your in serious denial, and should not be in a position of leadership. I predict that Ms Teddy will not be mec pres for long. Pass that along to HER !~

 

[Baja4U]

Huhhuh pitbull, alot of hot air and enjoying the temp spot light your in..... all talk.... im still here because i wanna be here, regardless of what some of "you" think! Is it bad? YUP! But im not shutting the baby down like you wanna.... Your in serious denial, and should not be in a position of leadership. I predict that Ms Teddy will not be mec pres for long. Pass that along to HER !~

[post="204594"][/post]​

Oh, but you are SO wrong fliboi !!!! HAIL to PITBUL !!!!