BOS ALPA F/O Rep. Update - July 12, 2007

[Busdrvr]

And 9 vs 21-22 actually makes "sense" to you, and is "fair" in which portion of Fantasyland?...or is it "I Got His!!!...MuaHaHa!" Land? No sense in really starting all this again. You simply do NOT "Get It" at any rational level. :down:

No offense, but it's the Easties who "don't get it". Why do you think your Bos Rep doesn't want another bite at the apple with a diff arbitrator? Simple, HE KNOWS YOU'D LOSE AGAIN.

Why did the aforementioned 21-22 year pilot leave UAL? He gave up "seniority" when he left. Wouldn't that be a silly thing to do in your world? By his own statements, he did it to accrue SENIORITY faster. He chose poorly...

you should get the same relative seniority in the combined company that you had pre-merger. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Junebug172]

And load your own FMS, fly every leg and make all the radio calls and don't even think about talking to me. That is what you have to look forward to you little twit! Oh, I and I can't wait unitl I get to do a sim with with one of you guys...you better not make any 4th year mistakes, there won't be any CRM in the sim.

Oh wow. And to think that I was going to help wheel you into the sim, put you on an aisle chair, and lift you into the right seat.

See if I ever push you around in your wheelchair after that tirade!

Junebug172 date='Jul 16 2007, 09:46 PM Post #17

"I have no interest in the east's left seats. Never have."

And that fits in with: "Now gear up and shut up!" in what way exactly? Ummm....Someone is hopelessly hypocritical, or extremely cross threaded at best here. I know that I'm left confused by your postings :blink:

PS: The people I see daily in the cockpit have far, far more experience and overall judgement than your postings indicate about yourself. I fully respect them for their experience and skills. The vast majority of them flew as mainline captains before the hideous downturns in the wake of 9-11. As arrogant and unpleasant as you may well imagine me to be...I've got better sense than to ever insult them, and I'll remind you that airline "Captain" hardly constitutes any actual "Rank". I'd love to have a video made of you trying to intimidate them, or just "play Captain" with them in general. It'd be a sure fire winner on America's Funniest Home Videos.

Blah, blah, blah and a big YAAAAWWWWNNN.

 

[EastUS]

No offense, but it's the Easties who "don't get it".

None taken. Our positions are diametrically opposed and seem set to stay that way. Such happens in life.

 

[Junebug172]

Why dont you look at AWA and what kind of airline you got hired at. Started with scabs continued to scab and had the worse contract for years. You seem a bit upset and moody. Is it that time of the month sweetie?

Ya it is Sally. I need some more lovin".

Where's that mom of yours?

And 9 vs 21-22 actually makes "sense" to you, and is "fair" in which portion of Fantasyland?...or is it "I Got His!!!...MuaHaHa!" Land? No sense in really starting all this again. You simply do NOT "Get It" at any rational level. :down:

We don't have to "get it" because we "got it."

Get over it.

What the West pilots do not understand is that the majority of the East pilots would rather remain separate and keep their DOH seniority then negotiate a joint contract and have the Nicolau Award proceed.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

What some east pilots do not understand is that a majority of east pilots will walk all over each other to get out from under LOA 93.

 

[EastUS]

Ya it is Sally. I need some more lovin".

Where's that mom of yours?
We don't have to "get it" because we "got it."

Get over it.
What some east pilots do not understand is that a majority of east pilots will walk all over each other to get out from under LOA 93.

You guys DO still drug test out there sometimes?...ever? :blink:

 

[Busdrvr]

What the West pilots do not understand is that the majority of the East pilots would rather remain separate and keep their DOH seniority then negotiate a joint contract and have the Nicolau Award proceed.

Moreover, the majority of the combined operations revenue is on the East Coast and PHX/LAS are low yeild markets. In a merger there may be more concern on a PHX/LAS downsizing because other airlines have a stronger operations, which would create even larger profits when combined with US Airways' East Coast operation.

For example, at a recent Wall Street conference United indicated it wanted a merger partner "a compatible mate, with a presence in both the Northeast and the South and a yen for travel in Latin America."

See Story

Really? The East wants to stay seperate? I hadn't heard that!

While the PHX/LAS markets are low yeild, they are also LOW COST. Why is it that US was operating in all those fabulous markets and losing money BIG TIME, while AWA was operating in all those crappy markets and being profitable? Bragging about the "Yield" in U's markets vs AWA's is like a nasty 60 year old hooker denegrating a 20 year old hot sorority chick because she's got smaller boobs... BFD!

It's funny you chose to quote a reporter, NOT a member of UAL's management team.

 

[Junebug172]

You guys DO still drug test out there sometimes?...ever? :blink:

Sure do old timer.

Why do you ask?

Trying to hide that blue pill?

 

[EastUS]

Sure do old timer.

Why do you ask?

Trying to hide that blue pill?

1)Whew!..glad to hear that.

2) Your postings.

3)I understood that it was the Red Pill one takes to be freed from the Matrix, and perceive actual reality...perhaps you should try it

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Busdrvr,
Dude didn't want to be a SCAB. Apparently that means nothing to you. Remember, what goes around comes around.

Later,
Eye

No offense, but it's the Easties who "don't get it". Why do you think your Bos Rep doesn't want another bite at the apple with a diff arbitrator? Simple, HE KNOWS YOU'D LOSE AGAIN.

Why did the aforementioned 21-22 year pilot leave UAL? He gave up "seniority" when he left. Wouldn't that be a silly thing to do in your world? By his own statements, he did it to accrue SENIORITY faster. He chose poorly...

you should get the same relative seniority in the combined company that you had pre-merger. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Busdrvr]

Busdrvr,
Dude didn't want to be a SCAB. Apparently that means nothing to you. Remember, what goes around comes around.

Later,
Eye

Uhhh, someone has fed you a line of shyatt. USA320 was TRAINED to be a scab, and made the correct decision to honor the picket line. He LATER (after the strike) left UAL for U because HE says U offered faster growth/seniority.

But now he is trying to subvert the seniority (duely awarded by a neutral arbitrator) of the west pilots and is begging to be used as a whipsaw against his fellow union pilots. People called the "Freedumb" pilots at Mesa the S word for similar actions....

 

[ClueByFour]

Moreover, the majority of the combined operations revenue is on the East Coast and PHX/LAS are low yeild markets. In a merger there may be more concern on a PHX/LAS downsizing because other airlines have a stronger operations, which would create even larger profits when combined with US Airways' East Coast operation.

The only reason the east coast operation makes money is because they slaughtered your pay. It's still extremely high cost.

If the EC ops were that profitable, there would not have been one and certainly not two bankruptcy filings. At the end of the day, you are the reason money is made--LOA 93. And the artificial ability in BK to reduce capacity and screw leaseholders, bondholders, and creditors.

The punchline here is that Nicolau not withstanding, you won't be getting the returns that ALPA thinks it can get out east (or in any combined contract). That happens, and neither side of the operation is profitable.

Nobody wants the powerhouse East operation without LOA 93, basically forever. Be very, very careful what you wish for.

 

[ussnark]

The only reason the east coast operation makes money is because they slaughtered your pay. It's still extremely high cost.

So, the east coast operation should make even more money? Have at it.

If the EC ops were that profitable, there would not have been one and certainly not two bankruptcy filings. At the end of the day, you are the reason money is made--LOA 93. And the artificial ability in BK to reduce capacity and screw leaseholders, bondholders, and creditors.

You are not demonstrating that you have a basic understanding of what happened, but then, it would be a first if you did.

The punchline here is that Nicolau not withstanding, you won't be getting the returns that ALPA thinks it can get out east (or in any combined contract). That happens, and neither side of the operation is profitable.

So, the east coast pilots should be lower cost (less pay) than the west coast pilots? See how that flies in a "joint contract".....

Nobody wants the powerhouse East operation without LOA 93, basically forever. Be very, very careful what you wish for.

Mixing metaphors can lead to ill-parsed sentences, like yours.

I suggest you back away from the liquor bottle, very slowly.

 

[ClueByFour]

You are not demonstrating that you have a basic understanding of what happened, but then, it would be a first if you did.

Go back and read the archives, sparky. I know exactly what happened, knew the second BK was coming and why, knew that you guys were going to overreach on DOH and get what happened.

Really. Do a bit of a search.

I suggest you back away from the liquor bottle, very slowly.

I suggest you get used to the idea of pulling gear for someone out west. It either happens or you enjoy the LOA 93 payrates forever (oh, and probably still get to see the Nic list used for the next merger).

Cheers.

 

[EastUS]

Go back and read the archives, sparky. I know exactly what happened, knew the second BK was coming and why, knew that you guys were going to overreach on DOH and get what happened.
Cheers.

Umm...got time to give us all the next winning lottery numbers? ...or at least a few good stock picks?

 

[Junebug172]

3)I understood that it was the Red Pill one takes to be freed from the Matrix, and perceive actual reality...perhaps you should try it

And east guy lecturing a West guy on reality.

Now that's funny!!