USA320Pilot comments: I have to correct the inaccurate statement above…In the case of the DB pension the RC4 participated in this too.
You are lying again.
The pension was given away in March of 2003. The “RC4†as you call them, were swept into office in March 2004. I think it had something to do with the building anger in PIT and PHL about the pension give-away by your friends on the MEC, Pollock, Tosi, Baker, Scola.
USA320Pilot comments: ...if my memory serves me correctly, John Brookman, Doug Mowrey/John Crocker, and Dan Von Bargen were on the MEC…My point is that members of the so called RC4 were on the MEC at the time.
You are lying again.
Mike Tosi and Timmy Baker - friends of management and defendants in a lawsuit against ALPA - were the PIT and PHL reps in March 2003 when they voted to give away the pension. The new PIT and PHL reps were elected by a landslide in March 2004. You know, the ones you tried to get recalled.
Mowery made a motion to put the pension giveback out to the pilots for a vote. Pollock ruled it out of order. Your friends on the MEC, Tosi, Scola, Newman, Belz, and Baker all voted with Pollock.
I am not wrong and I was at many of those meetings. Was Mike there, yea, before he retired, but there were members of the RC4 there too, which was my only point. How aobut Bill Mckee and Frank Kelly.
You are lying again.
If you were at ANY meetings you would know that Dan Scola (who expensed his home satellite dish to Council 90 CLT) and Lyle “Alfred E.†Newman were the CLT reps who clamored to give away the pension.
If you were at ANY meetings you would remember that they were promoting management's lie that if the pension wasn't given back, US Airways wouldn’t have the money to buy more RJ’s for feed.
If you were at ANY meetings you would know that McKee and Kelly were voted out by the CLT pilots in 2002 because they advocated taking a stand against a scheming, lying management team. But you know how fighting management goes over in CLT…
Some pilots just don't have the character to stand up to a scheming, lying management team. Remember, you were the one who said that the "RC4" scared you.
By the way, does it make you feel tough to hide behind a PC and insult others? Personally, I believe that lacks courage.
Lacks courage? What about a pilot who RUNS away when a member of your so-called “RC4†approaches him to take him to task? Not once, but twice. You see, I was at many of those meetings, too. (I took notes.) I have to laugh when I think of someone almost knocking a Flight Attendant down to get out of the room when approached by a member of your “RC4.â€
Lacks courage? What about a pilot who floods management with e-mails begging them to bypass his union and propose anything they want, just so he can keep his job. (I have copies of those e-mails, too.)
Lacks courage? How about a "union" pilot that had lunch with Dave Siegel trying to ingratiate himself? There’s a real union guy!
Now speaking of hiding behind a computer, I guess I’ll be recieving one of your patented PMs calling me names and signed off with a quote you lifted out of your “Famous Quotes†book. You know, the one you bought because you were told you would look more intelligent if you quoted famous people.
Remember what happened in DC. I was there. You don’t want everyone here to get the gory details, do you?
Even if you tell a lie enough times...
it still won't become the truth
You, sir, are the embodiment of all that is wrong with this profession.