Apfa Election

[L1011Ret]

I woke up in the middle night to go to the bathroom and find JW won by 7 votes. But THB's slate won all the other positions. Bummer. Someone was kind enough to send me a personal e-mail about IO suggesting he is not worth responding to. The warmth conveyed in that note was very touching. I thank him/her from the bottom of my heart.

 

[twasilverbullet]

jw won by 7 votes. :down:

There will be a recount of ballots at 9 am ct.
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Frigging unbelievable!!!

Just because jw don't want to see the recall rights extended for TW'ers, he comes out with the seniority thang!... knowing quite well it's out of his hands and ours and most of you fall for it..... Hotel, knowing you are one of his least supporters there is still hope with the recount, who knows what may happen, stranger things have happened and if not at least we know we tried and it was only by seven votes, not a great victory if you ask me.
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Leaving the vote results aside, I have never expirienced so much hatred and disdain, directly or indirectly towards me and my fellow coworkers, ever since day one but in all fairness, I must thank that minority who wish us nothing but the best,...... you know who you are. May God bless you and keep you.

 

[kirkpatrick]

Just for the record, the STL vote was 2131 for THB and 12 for JW. We tried, but it just wasn't quite enough.

MK

 

[MiAAmi]

All though it still too early to call a winner, the STL base can take pride in their turnout. Just goes to show that your vote does count.

 

[jimntx]

Have any of you heard about the "fire drill?" It seems that late in the count the fire alarm suddenly went off. Everyone was told to vacate the hotel, then when they were allowed to return--I know you are going to be shocked, but it was false alarm--the ballots from two of the bases--LGA and MIA, I think--had "somehow gotten mixed together" and had to be separated and recounted. The results were different on the second count.

I am particularly concerned about the security of the STL ballots. Since the vote was so overwhelmingly pro-THB, in the event of a "fire drill", the STL ballots would be an obvious target for a "grab and discard" operation.

Is this the future you want for APFA? Every single time we vote, there is some "OSO" event--fire drills, extending a vote after the votes have been counted and the result was not what the president wanted, BOD taking away the membership's right to vote on an issue. Do any of you honestly believe that the membership will ever learn to trust each other or the union's management if this kind of crap just continues to happen every time that JW doesn't get his way?

 

[s80dude]

I was in the room at the time a fire alarm went off. Members of the National Ballot Committee and the Designated Observers were in the room the entire time. Someone went to the front desk to see if the fire alarm was legit or not and we were told it was not.

The room was never unattended

 

[woztwa]

APFA NATIONAL OFFICER S RUNOFF ELECTION RESULTS March 10, 2004
Due to the fact no candidate for any position won by a margin of more than 10%, a recount will be conducted in accordance with Article VI, Section 5.M. of the APFA Constitution. The recount will be conducted by representatives of the APFA National Ballot Committee and Whitley Penn and Associates, APFA's outside election agency, in the presence of the candidates and their designated observers.

Candidates BOS BOSI DCA DCAI DFW IDF IMA IOR JFK LAX LAXI LGA MIA ORD RDUI SFO SFOI SLT ISL STL TOTAL %
BALLOTS
RECEIVED

President
Tommie L. Hutto-Blake 83 132 202 49 324 241 468 416 808 361 191 483 419 580 53 150 57 187 2131 7335 50%
John Ward 285 122 121 36 1794 909 422 448 373 542 105 414 450 646 9 400 84 170 12 7342 50%
Void (Overvote) 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 0%
Blank (Undervote) 2 2 2 0 7 7 5 7 3 6 1 6 4 5 0 3 1 3 5 69 0%
Total Ballots Counted 370 256 325 85 2126 1158 895 872 1184 911 297 903 874 1231 62 553 142 360 14752

Vice President
Ted Bedwell, Jr. 261 112 139 45 1660 834 343 402 349 473 84 370 381 608 10 343 65 167 87 6733 46%
Brett Durkin 105 141 185 40 430 303 541 455 817 412 207 508 483 604 51 190 69 188 2041 7770 53%
Void (Overvote) 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0%
Blank (Undervote) 4 3 1 0 35 20 11 15 18 25 6 25 10 19 1 20 8 5 20 246 2%
Total Ballots Counted 370 256 325 85 2126 1158 895 872 1184 911 297 903 874 1231 62 553 142 360 14752

Secretary
Greg Hildreth 106 132 202 44 440 307 487 454 821 386 198 521 445 576 49 188 60 184 2071 7671 52%
Linda Lanning 258 118 121 40 1650 833 390 399 343 494 95 357 411 637 11 345 73 171 60 6806 46%
Void (Overvote) 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0%
Blank (Undervote) 6 6 2 1 35 18 18 19 20 30 3 25 18 18 2 20 9 5 17 272 2%
Total Ballots Counted 370 256 325 85 2126 1158 895 872 1184 911 297 903 874 1231 62 553 142 360 14752

Treasurer
Juan Johnson 265 129 114 39 1671 854 423 357 342 493 104 368 410 612 12 354 74 174 52 6847 46%
Cathy Hermann Lukensmeyer 100 121 209 46 422 287 458 504 822 388 189 511 447 608 49 181 60 183 2079 7664 52%
Void (Overvote) 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0%
Blank (Undervote) 5 6 2 0 32 17 14 11 20 29 4 24 17 11 1 18 8 3 17 239 2%
Total Ballots Counted 370 256 325 85 2126 1158 s 872 1184 911 297 903 874 1231 62 553 142 360 14752
Void – Dues Arrears 7 3 6 1 38 10 12 4 19 9 2 23 14 24 1 14 4 13 131 204
Void – Not in secret envelope 2 3 1 9 3 7 2 8 5 1 10 1 8 1 10 61
Void – Duplicate 1 1
Void – Did not follow rules 1 1 1 1 1 5
Total Ballots Received 379 262 332 86 2174 1173 20 878 1212 925 300 937 889 1263 63 567 146 374 141 15023
Total Ballots Mailed 761 374 583 127 3409 1552 1530 1246 1899 1692 433 1880 1523 2284 89 1097 244 603 2931 24,253

 

[latreal]

I was in the room at the time a fire alarm went off. Members of the National Ballot Committee and the Designated Observers were in the room the entire time. Someone went to the front desk to see if the fire alarm was legit or not and we were told it was not.

The room was never unattended

lol, that was funny. I figure that there will be conspiracy theories with the lawsuit results also...lol
lets say everyone should accept the results and move on with this result (when its final) also.
mmmmkay B)

 

[latreal]

Just because jw don't want to see the recall rights extended for TW'ers, he comes out with the seniority thang!... knowing quite well it's out of his hands and ours and most of you fall for it..... Hotel, knowing you are one of his least supporters there is still hope with the recount, who knows what may happen, stranger things have happened and if not at least we know we tried and it was only by seven votes, not a great victory if you ask me.
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sooooo, if during the recount it is found that THB won by 7 would it be a great victory then?
Yeah, I know.

 

[TransWorldONE]

Rumor: it seems that some more ballots for THB have been found...is JW's brother the Governer of Texas?

 

[s80dude]

Fact: Witley Penn election certifier Felix Lozano had all the ballots bundled by base and boxed up, then had each candidate sign over the seal and taped up. No ballots could have been found since they are still locked in Felix's office in Ft. Worth.

The manual recount will resume at 130pm today at Radisson DFW

 

[TransWorldONE]

In any case, it aint over till the international flight attendant sings.

 

[twasilverbullet]

sooooo, if during the recount it is found that THB won by 7 would it be a great victory then?
Yeah, I know. [/quote]
Yes

 

[mjk]

Here are a couple of things that stick out to me:

...........Ttl Ballots Mailed.......Ttl Ballots Counted.........Pct voting
ORD..........2284...........................1231......................
.53.9%
STL...........2931...........................2148.....................
..73.3%

Also, 10 STL votes not mailed in the 'secret envelope'. I wonder who those votes we're for???

I'm not a F/A, but anyone working for AA knows how important this election is......well, except maybe for the 46% at ORD that didn't bother to vote.

Unbelieveable.

 

[L1011Ret]

According to reasonably reliable sources, 30 some additional ballots have been found. However, if they are split 50/50 the vote will remain unchanged. What is reported above, the comparison between ORD and STL was similar in the last election too I believe.