name='Ch. 12' date='Dec 1 2006, 06:16 AM' post='434371'
Exactly...you still haven't given your plan. Still "stay the course". I gave you my plan and it wasn't cut and run. Go back and read it (maybe you should have done that the first time rather than saying "I'm not going to read it b/c it doesn't interest me").
You call this a Plan?
"My" plan for Iraq? First…apologize to the world for our mistakes, miscalculations, underestimations, and false assumptions. Apologize for “going it alone†and not seeking a worldwide solution to Iraq. Then tell the world to shut up b/c we have some issues to correct. A little humility will go along way. And sure we have to stay in Iraq for now. But we have to have some rules. Right now our only rule is that we are there until a sufficient army is trained (say...weren't we supposed to start withdrawal when the new gov't was elected?!) We need better rules. First off...the puppet gov't is 1/3 made up of known terrorist sects. DEMAND that these groups are not given power. These are appointed posts...not elected ones. Demand that if we are to continue serving as security for the country that they align their gov't to be conducive to a decent ending. Once that is done, DEMAND from neighboring countries...even Iran and Syria...that they take a more active role in policing arms/personnel flows into Iraq. I guarantee you that Iran is not desiring another drawn out war with Iraq as the last one crippled their country for two decades. And DEMAND that Iraq take an honest approach to training and building their forces. Let the residents of Iraq see their own people patrolling their villages rather than Americans. Let them feel like THEY own their security and their future…not Americans. Let them grow a respect for their own people rather than a hatred towards Americans. And let the rest of the Middle East see that we do, indeed, want a stable and INDEPENDENT Iraq as we had pledged long ago.
Yea that will do it alright, first apoligize to the world for going it alone. (which BTW we did not 'go it alone' we just led the way as we always have in the past.) Place rules and demands on a puppet government that is ripe with terrorist influnence, Place 'DEMANDS' on Iran and Syria?

of which are both co-sponsoring the insurgency and continue to thumb their noses to the world.
Have'nt we been building and training Iraqi forces from the outset to take over when they are self sufficient?
Hmmm...sounds like staying the course to me.
So...what is your plan? "stay the course" is no plan...it is a cop out. Give details.
Unlike you I dont attempt to give the arrogant appearance of being an expert on everything from airline mergers, bankruptcy, union issues, politics, wars, history, economies, ecology, Religion, you name it, it runs the gammit with your superior knowledge of everything. Don't believe me? just go back and scan your 46 pages of posts on this board, anyone can see that you are a self rigtheous egotistical arrogant 'know-it-all'.
I have no conclusive plan genius, just as you nor the loud mouthed leftist of this country. all you can do is demand change with out a defined workable solution.
I will say this one last time, the war on terror will be won with might and not with placing '
demands or rules' on these people, we can show the world that it will not be tolerated with appeasement thru brute force (which BTW is the only thing ISLAM understands) or we can go the route Eurabia is fast becomming thru 'tolerance' as you like to put it and hope we just don't piss anybody off by offending them.
Now back to the topic that you hijacked, are you one of those slumbering catfish?