American Airlines makes a move to dominate at LAX

[jimntx]

As my Belgian counterpart at Texaco used to say, "No.  I didn't knew that." (sp deliberate)  Thanks for the info.

 

[topDawg]

Some might know this, but American Airlines still does operate four CTOs to cater to Latin/Caribbean customers, where cash is still king. They are in Coral Gables, downtown Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and Midtown Manhattan. 

They might be the last inside the US then. Delta closed its last CTO (in NYC) not to long ago. I would assume if UA has any left it would be in NYC. 

 

[eolesen]

the average user doesn't have a SSIM file and since paper timetables came with printed route maps, that is the way a lot of people know them.

a computer program can isolate by aircraft type, hubs, etc... but there is still nothing like seeing a mess of spaghetti lines all over a map.

it seems a little surprising that AA doesn't publish a map like that someplace.

Yeah, shut your pie hole, Skippy...

You may not have access to SSIM's, but there are people who do, and make them available for others to use. Like this handy app:

http://arm.64hosts.com/

It's updated seasonally. IATA seasons. Not DL seasons.

You can also provide your own data if you have more an average IQ and can figure out text files...

 

[WorldTraveler]

shut your pie hole? really? you're such a tiny little man.

all because you made a fool of yourself about yet another subject?

you may keep schedule files under your pillow - since your wife tells you to go play on the computer on the other side of the world - but the average Joe doesn't keep schedule data around.

with all your global travel, would you like to tell us what airlines actually do print a route map?

hint: you can find one in the seat pocket of every DL and DCI aircraft - in the Sky magazine.

DL apparently sees all of those spaghetti lines as something that interest a lot of people.

 

[eolesen]

Whatever, Skippy. Once again you're the all knowing expert.

That's why you've been outside the industry spanning two decades...

 

[WorldTraveler]

so, besides DL, what airlines publish their route maps?

you're the one that says you've spent so much time on other carriers... surely you can start a list.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

I can grasp who has more spaghetti lines to/from LAX...

Wait for it...

The dominant carrier at the airport, that is who.

Now, how about the next move for the dominant carrier there...the one the thread is actually about?

(For those who are challenged scroll to the top of the page)

 

[WorldTraveler]

you do realize that by your definition, UA, not AA is the dominant airline at LAX

I'm sure you didn't knew that.

 

[topDawg]

shut your pie hole? really? you're such a tiny little man.

all because you made a fool of yourself about yet another subject?

you may keep schedule files under your pillow - since your wife tells you to go play on the computer on the other side of the world - but the average Joe doesn't keep schedule data around.

with all your global travel, would you like to tell us what airlines actually do print a route map?

hint: you can find one in the seat pocket of every DL and DCI aircraft - in the Sky magazine.

DL apparently sees all of those spaghetti lines as something that interest a lot of people.

Just for the record, all one has to do is use google and you can get Delta timetables still. Delta publishes a printable version on its website.
 
or move into the 21 century and download the timetable to your compute.  

 

[MAH4546]

They might be the last inside the US then. Delta closed its last CTO (in NYC) not to long ago. I would assume if UA has any left it would be in NYC. 

 
United has one at Penn Station and another in downtown Honolulu. Among U.S. carriers, I think that's it.
 
However, I bet many foreign airlines have CTOs in Miami, New York, LA and SF. although off the top of my head I only know of the Korean Air CTO in LA's Korea Town. 

 

[WorldTraveler]

Just for the record, all one has to do is use google and you can get Delta timetables still. Delta publishes a printable version on its website.
 
or move into the 21 century and download the timetable to your compute.

still doesn't give you a data file that you can make your own spaghetti map.

also, US carrier CTOs generally charge a fee for their services. from AA.com


Are there any charges associated with tickets issued by reservations offices, airport locations or American Airlines Travel Centers?



A:
American Airlines Reservations
•$25 for travel within the U.S.
$35 for international travel
American Airlines Airport Ticket Counter And Admirals Club
•$35 for travel within the U.S.
$45 for international travel
American Airlines Travel Center
•A $35 USD charge applies
•Due to government and market requirements, a higher charge may be charged in Colombia
This charge does not apply to: •Involuntary changes
•Reissued tickets
•AAdvantage Executive Platinum members when the member is traveling on either a revenue or award ticket. The service charge will not apply to any passenger booked in the same reservation as the AAdvantage Executive Platinum member.
•AAdvantage award tickets issued within 21 days of travel and an expedite charge is collected.
•AAirpass tickets
•Government/military fare tickets
•Prepaid tickets

 

[topDawg]

 
United has one at Penn Station and another in downtown Honolulu. Among U.S. carriers, I think that's it.
 
However, I bet many foreign airlines have CTOs in Miami, New York, LA and SF. although off the top of my head I only know of the Korean Air CTO in LA's Korea Town. 

It seems like I saw a list of CTOs in NYC and most of the big names had one somewhere. 

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

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http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/la.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=morelax

 

[Kev3188]

Nice!

 

[WorldTraveler]

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http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/la.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=morelax

it's a great airplane but the real question has to be if it generates the revenues comparable to other carriers using "lesser" aircraft on comparable routes.

specific to LAX-LHR, AA has a significant revenue premium but they had it before on 772s with a product that didn't include lie flat seats.