American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

Any sliver of self respect you might still have left in yourself?

Maybe Al will let you use his name instead?

gotta try cuz i have too much dignity and respect to continue with this illogical mind blowing madness called an association.
They arent going to get any improvements since they have zero leverage. Its time to vote. Its logical. Or we can keep foregoing yearly raises for sacrificing to the unborn.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Lmao, you’ll never get it will you? It’s amazing to me you like to think of yourself as this intelligent guy, but yet you can’t figure it out.
Ok!! Go ahead and try.
And as far as you calling me useless. Again, it would only bother me if you approved of something I did.

nothing i could say would bother you. Your pay depends on sito, not me. If you ran on a ballot by yourself if you pissed off klemm, you would get 0 Locals like frankie O.
But things you say bothers me because you are suppose to be representing us. Yet you are no better than occupying a seat in an insignificant room. That bothers all of us.Why wouldnt it?
You and the negotiation team dont know how to stick together in solidarity to secure at least a couple of you are in the room.
A secondhand room...anyone can sit in, we dont need to pay you $150,000 to sit in a secondhand room.
And it was wrong that you got a monster pay raise off our backs. You have no right to say the company offer isnt good enuf.
Go without a pay raise and only making $40,000 like most those you represent. Easy for you to say when u pay zero for health care, welch members for 2 pensions, and get monster raises.

 

[WeAAsles]

gotta try cuz i have too much dignity and respect to continue with this illogical mind blowing madness called an association.

Oh no you have no dignity and I don’t think anyone respects you either. They do laugh at you though which has to count for something right?

They arent going to get any improvements since they have zero leverage. Its time to vote. Its logical. Or we can keep foregoing yearly raises for sacrificing to the unborn.

Nice to see you admit for the first time that the Company does want to do away with our work over time (Sacrificing to the unborn)

Besides Tim you can relax about your lost ill gotten booty (Or ill booten gotty) cause you’ll get a retro check there bub.

And in the end even though you can’t vote you’ll have the satisfaction of knowing the rest of us did the right thing for the kids. You do have kids of your own don’t you?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Oh no you have no dignity and I don’t think anyone respects you either. They do laugh at you though which has to count for something right?



Nice to see you admit for the first time that the Company does want to do away with our work over time (Sacrificing to the unborn)

Besides Tim you can relax about your lost ill gotten booty (Or ill booten gotty) cause you’ll get a retro check there bub.

And in the end even though you can’t vote you’ll have the satisfaction of knowing the rest of us did the right thing for the kids. You do have kids of your own don’t you?

all i can do is keep pressing for fairness. If people respect me or not is a matter of knowledge.

 

[WeAAsles]

nothing i could say would bother you. Your pay depends on sito, not me. If you ran on a ballot by yourself if you pissed off klemm, you would get 0 Locals like frankie O.
But things you say bothers me because you are suppose to be representing us. Yet you are no better than occupying a seat in an insignificant room. That bothers all of us.Why wouldnt it?
You and the negotiation team dont know how to stick together in solidarity to secure at least a couple of you are in the room.
A secondhand room...anyone can sit in, we dont need to pay you $150,000 to sit in a secondhand room.
And it was wrong that you got a monster pay raise off our backs. You have no right to say the company offer isnt good enuf.
Go without a pay raise and only making $40,000 like most those you represent. Easy for you to say when u pay zero for health care, welch members for 2 pensions, and get monster raises.

 

[charlie Brown]

nothing i could say would bother you. Your pay depends on sito, not me. If you ran on a ballot by yourself if you pissed off klemm, you would get 0 Locals like frankie O.
But things you say bothers me because you are suppose to be representing us. Yet you are no better than occupying a seat in an insignificant room. That bothers all of us.Why wouldnt it?
You and the negotiation team dont know how to stick together in solidarity to secure at least a couple of you are in the room.
A secondhand room...anyone can sit in, we dont need to pay you $150,000 to sit in a secondhand room.
And it was wrong that you got a monster pay raise off our backs. You have no right to say the company offer isnt good enuf.
Go without a pay raise and only making $40,000 like most those you represent. Easy for you to say when u pay zero for health care, welch members for 2 pensions, and get monster raises.

Are you familiar or have you ever heard the name Harold Stassen? Maybe go google him and educate yourself a little.

You see, after you run for so many things and keep losing, people tend to not want to be associated with that person. They shy away so to speak. That’s why you always scrape by getting a ticket up.

Also people will just not bother to go vote when their only option is someone that they know is going to lose. But some people like Mr Stassen, can never figure that out.
I’ve repeatedly heard you put down the membership after elections for not turning out to vote. And just like Mr Stassen you can’t figure out why.

If you really want to bring about change for the membership, you have to face it and get out of the way. Sure you have some support. So did Stassen. But change can’t come with some support.
Now you and I both know that you’ll never get out of the way, because we both know it’s not about the membership to you. It’s about you! And unfortunately for you, more and more people figure that out every day.
So you go ahead and try! But if you really cared, and wanted change for the membership as far as the association goes, then you would get out of the way.

 

[WeAAsles]

all i can do is keep pressing for fairness. If people respect me or not is a matter of knowledge.

This is what I see as your idea of fairness.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I really think Nelson has alot of good points, I just have to stand down for my FLL gig.

Ill be putting in my transfer today. Should nab a florida station before March. Its always hiring time down there in February.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

Timothy Grimm

The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

all i can do is keep pressing for fairness. If people respect me or not is a matter of knowledge.

Respect is earned.

Name calling, slander, lies and your other behaviors don’t earn you respect, they make you lose it.

You have no knowledge, you have lies, insults and slander.

When you are shown to be wrong, you still run with your lies and misinformation as reality, facts and truth don’t fit your narrative.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

thats what we may need to go back to. Then have an immediate vote on the last offer to assess where things are.

They will vote in two weeks, the same two weeks you promised months ago to post the so called final offer, yet months later and still no offer.

That’s why no one respects you and is the reason you have negative credibility.

And you can’t vote. And no one annotated you speaker of the membership.
Just more of your delusions of grandeur.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

See the "Dunning–Kruger effect"... it explains everything...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

When you are shown to be wrong, you still run with your lies and misinformation as reality, facts and truth don’t fit your narrative.

See "Narcissism"...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/narcissism

And you can’t vote. And no one annotated you speaker of the membership.
Just more of your delusions of grandeur.

See "Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) "
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder

 

[Tim Nelson]

Respect is earned.

Name calling, slander, lies and your other behaviors don’t earn you respect, they make you lose it.

You have no knowledge, you have lies, insults and slander.

When you are shown to be wrong, you still run with your lies and misinformation as reality, facts and truth don’t fit your narrative.

look goofball, im not trying to build any respect for me, ive got plenty. Enuf respect that the district and intl changed their bylaws because of me. Id like to try to get the membership to respect itself. They deserve better than the battered wife syndrome. Once they are self aware, they would demand one of their twu prez in the room. Among other things.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

im not trying to build any respect for me

 

[GVPSPIAM]

look goofball, im not trying to build any respect for me, ive got plenty. Enuf respect that the district and intl changed their bylaws because of me. Id like to try to get the membership to respect itself. They deserve better than the battered wife syndrome. Once they are self aware, they would demand one of their twu prez in the room. Among other things.

Thanks for proving my points, you took the bait, hook, line and sinker.