American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[ALUS78]

Sorry Al. I forgot to give you the address. I’m sure you’d never actually look it up.

Oh and the time is 12 Noon. Not 4:30 AM.

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12 pm conviently when the morning shift is still at work and when the night shift has to be in the employee lot to catch the bus to the terminal.I need to look up addresses of massage parlors
in the miami for you

 

[WeAAsles]

Well i could be sarcastic but truthfully low 100ks for the aggravation.They shouldnt get a raise until we have a joint.My opinion of course and i venture to say the majority's.

Ok your answers aren’t exactly unreasonable.

If I had had a vote in my city on the raise President Jimenez got I would have voted no. I think for the work he was giving the Membership he was already being more than adequately compensated.

Had he been giving it his all I still would have felt that the raises for ALL Officers and Stewards should have been no more that the total of raises that the Members received since the merger which was in the range of 40% (He got a 70% raise of the stipend and it’s one of the reasons he lost his re-election bid)

 

[WeAAsles]

12 pm conviently when the morning shift is still at work and when the night shift has to be in the employee lot to catch the bus to the terminal.I need to look up addresses of massage parlors
in the miami for you

That time may be more convenient for the UAL Membership there in ORD I suspect? They do have you slightly outnumbered.

 

[ALUS78]

That time may be more convenient for the UAL Membership there in ORD I suspect? They do have you slightly outnumbered.

Dont know about ord but im waiting for the bus right now with ual guys

 

[WeAAsles]

Good Evening, brothers and sisters of Local TWU 568.

Today our Local President, Mr. Luis Rodriguez, was in SFO to meet with presidents from different locals and the International. Their objective was to discuss strategies that will help us elevate and improve communication between all locals.

Although local presidents were unable to be present during active mediation proceedings today, our TWU International negotiators debriefed them on all that was discussed.

More information will be shared at our next TWU Local 568 membership meeting, which will be taking place on January 28, 2019 - in the 4th floor auditorium and January 30, 2019 at the Union Hall.

Pictured above (from left to right):
Gary Schaible: Local 591
Mike Mayes: International Admin Vice President
Mike Busch: Local 591
William Fa: Local 513
Tony McCoy: International Rep
Kevin Sullivan: Local 510
Luis Rodriguez: Local 568
Andre Sutton: Local 502
Alex Garcia: International Executive Vice President
Gary Peterson: International Vice President

 

[Rogallo]

Although local presidents were unable to be present during active mediation proceedings today, our TWU International negotiators debriefed them on all that was discussed.

How/why were they unable to be present?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Dont know about ord but im waiting for the bus right now with ual guys

As far as ORD, we have 6,500 members. Only 150 voted, most of them were committees or District Officers who voted. What Weez doesn't understand is that his mail in ballots give the TWU members 30 days to vote, from their home. The IAM forces you to go to an inconvenient Local location, sometimes more than 100 miles away, and the voting period is only for a couple hours.

Look, let him justify the dopey IAM voting. Me and you know that the bylaws necessarily limit and rig the system now. This may come back to haunt them.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Good Evening, brothers and sisters of Local TWU 568.

Today our Local President, Mr. Luis Rodriguez, was in SFO to meet with presidents from different locals and the International. Their objective was to discuss strategies that will help us elevate and improve communication between all locals.

Although local presidents were unable to be present during active mediation proceedings today, our TWU International negotiators debriefed them on all that was discussed.

More information will be shared at our next TWU Local 568 membership meeting, which will be taking place on January 28, 2019 - in the 4th floor auditorium and January 30, 2019 at the Union Hall.

Pictured above (from left to right):
Gary Schaible: Local 591
Mike Mayes: International Admin Vice President
Mike Busch: Local 591
William Fa: Local 513
Tony McCoy: International Rep
Kevin Sullivan: Local 510
Luis Rodriguez: Local 568
Andre Sutton: Local 502
Alex Garcia: International Executive Vice President
Gary Peterson: International Vice President

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Wow. So they met to figure out communications. Couldn't they have done that on a conference call or a day meeting in Atlanta? Never mind that their staged work was separate from our IAM AGC's who were also given busy work. Such busy work included their baseball fantasy draft.

 

[WeAAsles]

Wow. So they met to figure out communications. Couldn't they have done that on a conference call or a day meeting in Atlanta? Never mind that their staged work was separate from our IAM AGC's who were also given busy work. Such busy work included their baseball fantasy draft.

You sound jealous.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

Why is someone so concerned when he can’t vote nor is he a member?

If he starts his own union drive it can bring negotiations to a halt.

Happened before.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

Hey, on the one hand, you say that no offer has been presented. On the other hand, you say that the company proposed 'when and where directed' on all scope. Which is it in your narrative?

Hey, on one hand you claim to be a union advocate, on the other hand you defend the company. Which is it in your narrative?

If he starts his own union drive it can bring negotiations to a halt.

That is the whole reason for doing it, he knows it will never go anywhere, but it WILL gum up negotiations!

 

[WeAAsles]

Hey, on one hand you claim to be a union advocate, on the other hand you defend the company. Which is it in your narrative?

He never claims to be a Union advocate. Just like the Union busting firms out there he claims he is “Pro Worker” and criticizes elected Union Representative as “Union Bosses”

 

[Tim Nelson]

Why is someone so concerned when he can’t vote nor is he a member?

If he starts his own union drive it can bring negotiations to a halt.

Happened before.

Negotiations have stalled anyways as the Association can't deliver its promises so its plan is to wait 2+ years to allow an arbitrator to give us the company proposal. I'm not interested in organizing Association members right now. AMP seems like a good start for the mechanics. Fleet service is dialed out and could care less about its union or any union.
Why wouldn't I be concerned with American and fleet service since this is where I work? I'm concerned about the entire industry.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hey, on one hand you claim to be a union advocate, on the other hand you defend the company. Which is it in your narrative?

That is the whole reason for doing it, he knows it will never go anywhere, but it WILL gum up negotiations!

lol. I'm not a defender of the company. I think they are wrong for wanting to abolish our LUS health care. What the Association is asking for is fair but the problem is that it blew its leverage for the dues grab and that set us back.

There can only be two outcomes now.
1. Arbitration will be binding or agreed upon, and the arbitrator will rule for the company.
2. We vote on the same exact proposal now, instead of waiting 2+ years and get our gains right now instead of losing $13,000 a year.

The Association was more concerned with scrambling to get their $150,000 salaries instead. No reason to be a member. Voting is all rigged. Few set their alarm for 4:30am.

 

[WeAAsles]

Why is someone so concerned when he can’t vote nor is he a member?

If he starts his own union drive it can bring negotiations to a halt.

Happened before.

Supposedly there’s still an ongoing drive for either AMP or AMFA and Negotiations are still ongoing.

You don’t need to go outside and swat a fly that can’t even get into your house.