American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[AANOTOK]

I’m more interested in why it’s bothering you so much? You seem rather obsessively focusing on it.

Honestly.

No bother, funnier than hell...Honestly!

 

[WeAAsles]

Careful, your insecurity is showing.

Quite the contrary. You are and have been an “outsider” for many years now. That’s not fake news.

Something that maybe one day you need to come to terms with.

 

[ALUS78]

at least you finally admitted the real reason why you hate NYer. I think when you went begging to him for that gig that he said wouldnt be there, he did the right thing. You being a selfish prick just wanted off the job but NYer wasnt going to have any of that cuz your work ethic is awful from what I heard.

The iam saw the slimeball tendancies in you and offered you the fll jetblue gig and you jumped on it in exchange for being a iam loyalist and knifing your own Local.

Once I was blind now I can see

 

[ALUS78]

No bother, funnier than hell...Honestly!

In a playground way

 

[Tim Nelson]

Why undemocratic? There are approx 800 locals. Getting 75 would still be less than 10%. Getting 25 is just over 3%... the democratic process is in tact when anyone can run. By that I mean, anyone can run to get put on the ballot. First you run an election campaign to gain enough support to Get your name on the ballot. If you are successful, you now get to run for a position. Its just a two fold democratic process.. That’s all.

easy to say but the intl hasnt run a non supervised fair election since forever. Btw, it is down to 950 locals. 125 locals chose not to nominate anyone. But martinez is still shutting down 75 locals a year and taking their money and selling their real estate. Bagged $15 million for the Grand Lodge last year.

 

[Tim Nelson]

just in. I guess martinez is involved and spoke with American execs. The fleet offer may actually come out before the mx offer. Fly anticipates prior to section 6 which is now only about 60 days away.
The ass has not filed its desire to the company to engage section 6 either.

Looks like a last offer deal.
Dol claims it will also be making a determination shortly. 30 days or less.
No new specifics on the offer.

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez... Delta Airlines employees are VERY concerned that these talks will effect them (apparently)...

>SPIT<

Unfortunately I have to be honest and say that I don’t think Delta will ever be organized. It’s not the Union they want per se, but the mindset. There are just too many “individual” thinkers like Kev for a true “collective” to become cohesive.

They’re having difficulties falling in line behind Leaders because they all think they have that Leader mindset, although many of them are projecting their supposed skills from all the way behind the lines rather than stepping up front to lead the charge.

Kev of course will argue with me once again but I REALLY mean what I just wrote. It’s never going to happen.

 

[ALUS78]

Unfortunately I have to be honest and say that I don’t think Delta will ever be organized. It’s not the Union they want per se, but the mindset. There are just too many “individual” thinkers like Kev for a true “collective” to become cohesive.

They’re having difficulties falling in line behind Leaders because they all think they have that Leader mindset, although many of them are projecting their supposed skills from all the way behind the lines rather than stepping up front to lead the charge.

Kev of course will argue with me once again but I REALLY mean what I just wrote. It’s never going to happen.

Or maybe most dont feel they need a union or realize how many jobs will be lost if they get one

 

[ALUS78]

just in. I guess martinez is involved and spoke with American execs. The fleet offer may actually come out before the mx offer. Fly anticipates prior to section 6 which is now only about 60 days away.
The ass has not filed its desire to the company to engage section 6 either.

Looks like a last offer deal.
Dol claims it will also be making a determination shortly. 30 days or less.
No new specifics on the offer.

Good, lets look at it

 

[ALUS78]

just in. I guess martinez is involved and spoke with American execs. The fleet offer may actually come out before the mx offer. Fly anticipates prior to section 6 which is now only about 60 days away.
The ass has not filed its desire to the company to engage section 6 either.

Looks like a last offer deal.
Dol claims it will also be making a determination shortly. 30 days or less.
No new specifics on the offer.

It is it an offer or a TA?

 

[Kev3188]

Unfortunately I have to be honest and say that I don’t think Delta will ever be organized. It’s not the Union they want per se, but the mindset. There are just too many “individual” thinkers like Kev for a true “collective” to become cohesive.

They’re having difficulties falling in line behind Leaders because they all think they have that Leader mindset, although many of them are projecting their supposed skills from all the way behind the lines rather than stepping up front to lead the charge.

Kev of course will argue with me once again but I REALLY mean what I just wrote. It’s never going to happen.

Maybe, maybe not. Time’ll tell.

 

[ALUS78]

Maybe, maybe not. Time’ll tell.

Unions are going to losea lot more people before anyone from DL ramp pays any dues

 

[WeAAsles]

Maybe, maybe not. Time’ll tell.

2005. 13 years so far now right? When should time start telling and say the tale has been told?

I think I’d rather waste my time playing Golf instead.

 

[Kev3188]

Your math’s off by almost half. Dunno who’s feeding you info, but I would’ve thought they could at least get that one right?

November 2010.

And like I’ve said before; building coalition sometimes means taking the long view.

Time’ll tell.

 

[WeAAsles]

Your math’s off by almost half. Dunno who’s feeding you info, but I would’ve thought they could at least get that one right?

November 2010.

And like I’ve said before; building coalition sometimes means taking the long view.

Time’ll tell.

No one “feeds” me information. I sometimes “ask” for information. The 2005 was off the top of my own head. My apologies.

My comment still stands though.