American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[dfw gen]

again it doesn’t really matter what we think at the end of the day. It was ruled that way so that’s the way it is

That is true. Unfortunately the associations ability to defend it self is equivalent to its ability to negotiate.

 

[dfw gen]

And we have accept and deal with it.We were dealt these cards

Yup.

 

[iluvaa]

I was just told by my source that the ASS and the company are meeting in Washington tomorrow for 2 days and that the ass has agreed to bring this thing to a vote. Guess we will find out soon enough if my source is correct

 

[Buck]

Absolutely no proof whatsoever. Not from you, TWU or Phoenix. You have your theories, Phoenix has his “sources” and TWU writes a column trying to stir and mobilize the AMT’s...all of which is fine and dandy. But not one of you have anything to prove one word...but I guess it’s “plausible”.

Suppose that the Mechanic and Related obtain new representation, what happens to the other Title Groups?

 

[NYer]

Exactly. Have you looked at bag numbers lately? Is that a job action? If the numbers are bad just lower the hurdle there bobby.

Too bad the Association lawyers didn't argue any of that in court.

Anyway, there is only one person in the country that needs to believe there was a job action, and he did.

Now we all have to deal with that ruling.

 

[dfw gen]

Suppose that the Mechanic and Related obtain new representation, what happens to the other Title Groups?

Not our concern.

 

[NYer]

I was just told by my source that the ASS and the company are meeting in Washington tomorrow for 2 days and that the ass has agreed to bring this thing to a vote. Guess we will find out soon enough if my source is correct

You'll have a story if the Negotiating Committee flies to DC, as well.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Yeah, you're right!?!? The loss of revenue, cancelled flights and bad PR are just annoyances.

that team is aa + mcbryde, not aa + assoc. members.

wall street sees what you just wrote and is scratching it's head why this is occurring during boom times for the airlines.

why did it ever get to where it got?

 

[iluvaa]

You'll have a story if the Negotiating Committee flies to DC, as well.

Guess we’ll find out soon enough

 

[icebloodhockey]

our union steward in moc stated the NMB told both parties AA and TWU/IAM to get back to the table and solve this issue now! hopefully the NMB can hold AA and Union to the fire till it is all settled and we can vote.

 

[AANOTOK]

See

Suppose that the Mechanic and Related obtain new representation, what happens to the other Title Groups?

No clue Buck...selfish or not, I have five years left and will bide my time. Getting out after 43 years, I'll let the "others" worry about that.

 

[swamt]

Actually the AMP Constitution is based off the APA Pilots Constitution and is a better structure than the AMFA Constitution in that it provides for more National Representation from Local level. The AMFA Constitution allows the NEC to be infiltrated by Industrial Union Apologist and that's why AMFA lost United Airlines to the IBT

Then I stand corrected. I did thought it came from the AMFA.
At any rate, there is a base of the constitution that has already started and formed.
Not too sure I agree about the United thing. The teamsters simply moved in and lied, spread misinformation, and made all kinds of promises that they have not been able to keep to this day. They do that everytime. Propaganda games is what lost the United mechs from AMFA. Just like Horizon. They too left AMFA for the teamsters, and now they saw the light and came back to AMFA. When will the United mechs wake up and see the light???

 

[swamt]

You are harming the very people you claim to want to lift up.

What happened to you?

He's an absolute moron. That's what happened.

 

[swamt]

Hook, line and sinker.
So easy. LOL.

Yes. He really is so easy...

 

[swamt]

Don't even have to go that far. The SWA/AMFA contract was lifted as a beacon of how a job action can work in the union's favor.

Hey dummy. There was no job action at SWA. Get a clue dude...