American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[1AA]

Back on topic with the judge dismissing 4 of the Association's arguments, what does that leave to fight the injunction?

I would say AA needs to look at the root causes of specific issues affecting certain stations, shifts, workloads, MEL's, staffing, part availability, ground times and management relationships with the work force. If station A has a similar operation as station B but station A can't get its flights out as efficiently as station B then you need to look at what and how these aircraft are being maintained. It's not just turning a wrench. Deferring scheduled checks only to bite you later on in the day on a turn around is no way to run a aircraft maintenance operation. Many factors involving overnight maintenance operation. You have to know what they are in detail. You just can't look at numbers and generalize for the entire system.
Is the 767 fleet a bigger problem than the 757 fleet? Are the 319's more labor intensive than the 321's?
Does AA have parts available for the 767 where most of the maintenance is done and stations it flies to and from? Same goes for the MD80's and 777's. I think AA management took on a task much diverse than they thought they were able to handle. My opinion as I see it on a day to day basis.

 

[B737 driver]

I would say AA needs to look at the root causes of specific issues affecting certain stations, shifts, workloads, MEL's, staffing, part availability, ground times and management relationships with the work force. If station A has a similar operation as station B but station A can't get its flights out as efficiently as station B then you need to look at what and how these aircraft are being maintained. It's not just turning a wrench. Deferring scheduled checks only to bite you later on in the day on a turn around is no way to run a aircraft maintenance operation. Many factors involving overnight maintenance operation. You have to know what they are in detail. You just can't look at numbers and generalize for the entire system.
Is the 767 fleet a bigger problem than the 757 fleet? Are the 319's more labor intensive than the 321's?
Does AA have parts available for the 767 where most of the maintenance is done and stations it flies to and from? Same goes for the MD80's and 777's. I think AA management took on a task much diverse than they thought they were able to handle. My opinion as I see it on a day to day basis.

Probably why SWA dumped the 717s and the 737-300s, maintenance pigs. And yes on the stations I know what you are talking about.

 

[NYer]

Back on topic with the judge dismissing 4 of the Association's arguments, what does that leave to fight the injunction?

Try to poke holes in the statistics. Try to push knowledge of anything happening away from themselves (Assoc.) and make it isolated issues.

Because of the nature of the Railway Labor Act and reason for it's existence, to protect commerce and air transportation, it would take much to get an injunction.

This isn't the OJ trial.

 

[NYer]

I would say AA needs to look at the root causes of specific issues affecting certain stations, shifts, workloads, MEL's, staffing, part availability, ground times and management relationships with the work force. If station A has a similar operation as station B but station A can't get its flights out as efficiently as station B then you need to look at what and how these aircraft are being maintained. It's not just turning a wrench. Deferring scheduled checks only to bite you later on in the day on a turn around is no way to run a aircraft maintenance operation. Many factors involving overnight maintenance operation. You have to know what they are in detail. You just can't look at numbers and generalize for the entire system.
Is the 767 fleet a bigger problem than the 757 fleet? Are the 319's more labor intensive than the 321's?
Does AA have parts available for the 767 where most of the maintenance is done and stations it flies to and from? Same goes for the MD80's and 777's. I think AA management took on a task much diverse than they thought they were able to handle. My opinion as I see it on a day to day basis.

A large part of the arguments submitted by the Association didn't deal with cause and affect of the delays/cancellations. They tried to argue against an injunction by separating themselves from any alleged actions, trying to argue under a different law (not the RLA), refute the statisticians work and but not by explaining or submitting other reasons for the uptick in delays.

 

[Kev3188]

LMFAO. I have accomplished my goal. I got all of you thinking I am someone else. That is the best trick the Devil ever played. Are you guys mad at the truth will set you free because he was banging your wife or Let me guess he was Black.
Damn I can't make this up. I TOLD you to put me on ignor and you CANT. I guess that shows who is controlling who.

 

[cltrat]

citrate I would Pay you to call that guy a douchebag to his face. But I know you won't. You will continue to hide and act tuff on this BB. Thats the Coward way of being tuff.

Lol feel free to fly to CLT anytime cowboy, we’ll walk off property and I’ll tell you what a p****y you are to your face...lol what a clown.

 

[V.O. Reason]

Who hell cares who somebody votes for, I want us to get a JCBA.
The time is now to get an agreement.
The only thing I care about in politics is that my dues are not being used for one party and we all know that’s been done.
If I want to contribute to a party I will spend my own money .
Now let’s get back to contract talks.
Oh and if it’s true the company does pay attention to this forum,
Get back to the table and get a deal done

 

[ALUS78]

I believe you’re right, a race baiting douchebag as I recall

Hes baiting but hes the one who's going to have the stroke angry angry man

 

[ALUS78]

Who hell cares who somebody votes for, I want us to get a JCBA.
The time is now to get an agreement.
The only thing I care about in politics is that my dues are not being used for one party and we all know that’s been done.
If I want to contribute to a party I will spend my own money .
Now let’s get back to contract talks.
Oh and if it’s true the company does pay attention to this forum,
Get back to the table and get a deal done

Good idea gonna put the angry man on ignore .

 

[ALUS78]

I would say AA needs to look at the root causes of specific issues affecting certain stations, shifts, workloads, MEL's, staffing, part availability, ground times and management relationships with the work force. If station A has a similar operation as station B but station A can't get its flights out as efficiently as station B then you need to look at what and how these aircraft are being maintained. It's not just turning a wrench. Deferring scheduled checks only to bite you later on in the day on a turn around is no way to run a aircraft maintenance operation. Many factors involving overnight maintenance operation. You have to know what they are in detail. You just can't look at numbers and generalize for the entire system.
Is the 767 fleet a bigger problem than the 757 fleet? Are the 319's more labor intensive than the 321's?
Does AA have parts available for the 767 where most of the maintenance is done and stations it flies to and from? Same goes for the MD80's and 777's. I think AA management took on a task much diverse than they thought they were able to handle. My opinion as I see it on a day to day basis.

Wow quite the analysis.....the judge is going to rule for the company

 

[B737 driver]

The only thing wrong with me is I come on this BB to have fun making you Trump supporting idiots answer me. I keep expecting all of you to put me on ignor. At least WeAAsle was smart enough to. After I kept making a fool of him too. Why don’t you guys just admit that you voted for trump because you hate black people. I know that is the truth because when we are in the room by ourselves. I hear you say it. But you just assume because I’m white also. It’s ok. Don’t make me post names. The racist guys in Miami might get madd at me.

Hey Weazz or 700, or whatever handle you are using if you want to vote for a Socialist that will destroy our way of life, your right you can't fix stupid. As far as the African Americans in the United States that continue to support the Democratic party, that want to flood the country with illegals, there will be nothing for them, driving them down further the economic ladder. So you're right, you can't fix stupid.

 

[B737 driver]

I wasn't aware Hilary ran as a black american!

Same as Elizabeth Warren running as a Native American.

 

[B737 driver]

I am still waiting for you to answer my post. You are so happy to brag about what SWA gave you. Yet you still have not told me how you got full back pay all the way back to the end of your contract.There for you cant prove me wrong when I said that all they did was pay you with the money they saved over the years you sat on this site and cried like a little *****.But that is what this Forum is all about. Little scary Men trying to act tuff and smart. Trump Voting Cowards.

We did get our full backpay that's why AMFA paid our economist and our lawfirm to make sure we did. Plus the reasons we filled the countersuits against SWA, so where is your contract to vote on you **** stirring racist?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I am still waiting for you to answer my post. You are so happy to brag about what SWA gave you. Yet you still have not told me how you got full back pay all the way back to the end of your contract.There for you cant prove me wrong when I said that all they did was pay you with the money they saved over the years you sat on this site and cried like a little *****.But that is what this Forum is all about. Little scary Men trying to act tuff and smart. Trump Voting Cowards.

^^^Weezle^^^
This confirms that he is weezles. Weezles altar ego is at play.
Just a real angry dude. Angry man.

 

[AANOTOK]

Stupid is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the banned, pretty simple to see through the tears.
By the way Stupid, tell your text mates Ken says hello.