American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[cltrat]

Guess you would have lost that bet...but I agree with others, not even close to what they should get for giving up their medical.

Especially considering Uncle Sam would relieve you of a third of it

 

[WeAAsles]

I dont understand the company being so adamant about outsourcing while hiring so many people. We are getting 15 more or less flights from envoy and we hired 67 people.....ludicrous

Al it’s not about the Company necessarily outsourcing today or even perhaps in the immediate future. It’s all about a slow boil.

You have 40 years. Think about all the work you use to do when you hired on that you don’t do anymore.

I guarantee and you know I’m right because we’ve seen it. You give them the language to do it and they will over time start to do it.

You and I might not see much of it in the time that we have left but all these people they’re hiring now will absolutely live it.

 

[chellow]

I did not hear from anyone that the Company was seeking Arbitration.

What else has the Company kept from us?

They offered arbitration to all the Unions, we didn't take it. That's how the pilot and Fight attendant settle their contracts so fast.

 

[WeAAsles]

They offered arbitration to all the Unions, we didn't take it. That's how the pilot and Fight attendant settle their contracts so fast.

Oh was that what he was talking about? I thought they were asking for it again now?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I truly think that at the end of the day, the company gets what it wants one way or another.
As far as my strike comment, I was referring the end game if it ever were to get to that.

strike? Yea get replaced as 80% walk across for massive pay and benefit gains

 

[ALUS78]

strike? Yea get replaced as 80% walk across for massive pay and benefit gains

Guess we're just going to wait it out.Company should come out with something more formal. Its so apparant that their is division among the ranks and they are playing it like a Steinway

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Senior Vice President – Customer Experience



David Seymour

Senior Vice President – Integrated Operations


April 26, 2019

Team,



This week, negotiating teams for the company and the Association met for our last scheduled mediation session. Knowing the significance of this meeting, on the first day of talks, we proposed two very significant improvements to our current offer:



1. Increasing wages to match the new higher pay rates for applicable mechanic pay rates (AMTs, Inspectors, GSE/Facilities, and MCTs) in the Southwest tentative agreement


2. Making the transition to American Airlines medical plans easier for IAM-represented team members by adding a one-time, $3,000 medical transition payment. Also, under our proposal, the PPO 100 plan would sunset at the end of 2019, but participants could remain in the PPO 80 and 90 plans until the end of 2020.


These improvements are in addition to what the company already has on the table:



· An automatic 5% company contribution toward your retirement, with an additional match on team member contributions of up to 4%


· Significant improvements in holidays, vacation and sick time, including:

o 10 paid holidays and pay at 2.5x your rate if worked

o Up to six weeks of vacation

o 10 days of sick time paid at 100% of your pay rate


· A $3,000 signing bonus


· An early out that would pay approximately one year’s salary — $105,000 for full-time mechanics and $65,000 for full-time Fleet Service


· Most importantly, systemwide station and job protection on the date of signing. Every team member would continue to have a job in their classification at their same station. American would continue to do more maintenance work in house than at any other U.S. carrier.

After the company’s enhanced proposal, the mediators developed their own proposal. After reviewing both parties’ responses confidentially, the mediators determined that there was no framework for an agreement at this time and said there was no basis for further talks at this time. We will be waiting to hear from the mediators as to next steps.



The company has had an industry-leading offer on the table since July 2017. That’s nearly two years that team members have gone without higher pay, increased retirement, more days off and the other benefits currently on offer. Literally millions of dollars are being left on the table with each week that goes by. To help you see the full value of what is available, we have created a calculator that shows the increase in pay and overall compensation you would receive under the company’s current proposal. It takes into account your pay step, seniority, vacation, typical overtime hours worked in a year, 401(k) contributions, current and future medical coverage and more. We hope you’ll walk through the details and find out more about what this offer means for you.



We share this now because we feel you have a right to know what is at stake. The company has tried repeatedly to move talks along. When we were stalled in 2016, we implemented a significant pay increase. We later put forth a comprehensive, industry-leading proposal and enhanced it twice, including with higher wages and station protection among other enhancements. Last summer, we asked the Association leadership to let you vote on the company’s proposal, but they refused. When we continued to make no progress, we asked for mediation in September. Last month, we suggested we go to arbitration and let that arbitrated agreement be put to the membership for a vote. The Association leadership once again rejected the idea outright.



The proposal on the table is industry-leading, including the new Southwest tentative agreement, and one that offers very significant economic and lifestyle benefits for our team members. We think you’ll find it compelling, and if you do, you should talk to your union, because we can’t deliver that value to you if they won’t put it out for ratification.



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Pandering to the IAM, WHY?!?@?! Easing their pain of moving to the LAA medical. How about the pain LAA has been experiencing since day 1? The pain of an inferior contract. How about compensating LAA folks for the absolute screwing we have been taking all the while the IAM have been enjoying their precious medical.

 

[WeAAsles]

Guess we're just going to wait it out.Company should come out with something more formal. Its so apparant that their is division among the ranks and they are playing it like a Steinway

Al are you reading the Jetnet comments on the Company letter.

A sprinkling of support for the Company position but otherwise overwhelmingly against.

SCOPE is the main focus.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Guess we're just going to wait it out.Company should come out with something more formal. Its so apparant that their is division among the ranks and they are playing it like a Steinway

95% yes for ratification if the offer was presented. Thats why it isnt being presented.

 

[ALUS78]

Al are you reading the Jetnet comments on the Company letter.

A sprinkling of support for the Company position but otherwise overwhelmingly against.

SCOPE is the main focus.

No i havent but the numbers are reverse in Tims facebook which i consider a true accurate barometer

 

[WeAAsles]

Pandering to the IAM, WHY?!?@?! Easing their pain of moving to the LAA medical. How about the pain LAA has been experiencing since day 1? The pain of an inferior contract. How about compensating LAA folks for the absolute screwing we have been taking all the while the IAM have been enjoying their precious medical.

Divide and conquer.

The Company just added another layer to their agenda.

Again the Association wants the ability in language to be able to audit the Company’s Medical expenditures which is where the main focus is on that issue.

If the Company were an honest agent (They aren’t) they would have no problem agreeing to that request.

 

[WeAAsles]

No i havent but the numbers are reverse in Tims facebook which i consider a true accurate barometer

I don’t count sources that go out of their way to censorship.

Put it to Duffy’s page and I guarantee you will see the opposite since that page doesn’t censor.

And actually Jetnet/Workbrain would be the best source because the entire Association Membership can comment there. And again they are highly opposed.

 

[WeAAsles]

Last SCOPE proposal July 2017.

https://www.local591podcast.com/podcast-2/

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Divide and conquer.

The Company just added another layer to their agenda.

Again the Association wants the ability in language to be able to audit the Company’s Medical expenditures which is where the main focus is on that issue.

If the Company were an honest agent (They aren’t) they would have no problem agreeing to that request.

We were divided the minute the association was rammed down our throats

 

[WeAAsles]

We were divided the minute the association was rammed down our throats

You make this harder and make it take longer.

Why don’t you join together for the greater good and then when we make it past that battle you can go tear their throats out for all I care.

Otherwise fighting each other you know 100% feeds the Company.