Aircraft maint issues

[MetalMover]

Also, 5 wide bodies sit on the ground all day in GRU. Why wouldn't they want to take advantage of that ROD situation? Sure beats the hell outta working nights!

I also heard a rumor they have room for another hangar next to the existing one.

Baby steps!

 

[Rogallo]

That's 5 widebody aircraft sitting out of the country that we can not use for swapping out equipment in stations like DFW, JFK, MIA, LAX. So if a swap is needed at these stations and no equipment is available it costs the company money. I guess it's OK to have that many widebody aircraft sit all day in one station out of the country.

You really don't see the logistics of it, do you?

 

[MetalMover]

You really don't see the logistics of it, do you?

The Brazil hangar is here and here to stay. It is staffed by AA employees. I do not see the company scrapping all their plans for it.
Some people live in a state of perpetual denial.

 

[Rogallo]

The Brazil hangar is here and here to stay. It is staffed by AA employees. I do not see the company scrapping all their plans for it.
Some people live in a state of perpetual denial.

Like I said, if anything, it will be expanded upon.

 

[Buck]

Also, 5 wide bodies sit on the ground all day in GRU. Why wouldn't they want to take advantage of that ROD situation? Sure beats the hell outta working nights!

I also heard a rumor they have room for another hangar next to the existing one.

http://www.fsb-ae.com/project/american-airlines-wide-body-heavy-maintenance-hangar/

This is the company that offers the facility.

 

[Buck]

What's holding things up is dues (headcount)...if they offered to add heads and keep medical and everything else intact...the Twu/IAM would sell us down the river again...just keep my job secure..after me, new hires, I cannot afford to worry...business will shrink and u can't expect the company to hire when we have station overlaps...hence the early out...the unions want the early outs headcount replaced...I don't Blame the company for saying no...

The latest offer the company has made on JetNet grants Station Protection until you retire for everyone but a few where their stations are subject to closure.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

The latest offer the company has made on JetNet grants Station Protection until you retire for everyone but a few where their stations are subject to closure.

"Station protection"...fake news! There is no such animal. I`d be interested to see this language and how many holes are in it. The current seniority list has "system protection" scattered though out the list in no particular form or fashion.

 

[Buck]

Of course the wages are lower, I am sure the Brazilian government gave them all kinds of Tax breaks to have the facility built. You can say what you want, but the state of New York has ridiculous taxes, it's why companies move jobs to the Southern states, or overseas. Why would they want to pay high taxes and high salaries, they don't.

Please do not be naive, all of those items you mentioned start in a political base.

Brazil has the 8th Largest Economy in the world and quoting Investopedia ( Wikipedia )

"New York's economy is so large, it would rank as the 15th or 16th largest economy in the world if it were its own country; the exact ranking depends on the source. Its signature metropolitan
center, New York City, is the single largest regional urban economy in the country."

As far as our contract here at American it appears that the Mechanics wages are going to be determined by their peers in the industry.
While Fleet Service is asking for more than their peers, if not directly by money in their pocket but the combination of the number of Fleet Service and
those wages.

After Sandyhook, ( probably before ) New York put pressure on gun manufacturers forcing
Remington out to Huntsville, Alabama.

 

[Buck]

"Station protection"...fake news! There is no such animal. I`d be interested to see this language and how many holes are in it. The current seniority list has "system protection" scattered though out the list in no particular form or fashion.

At the highest level across both Fleet Service and Maintenance & Related, the company’s proposal offers station protection systemwide. You can’t — and wouldn’t — be forced out of your station or out of your basic classification.

Every team member covered by the TWU-IAM Association agreement at the time of ratification will continue to have a job at their station.

 

[Rogallo]

"The check's in the mail"

 

[Deleted member 14439]

At the highest level across both Fleet Service and Maintenance & Related, the company’s proposal offers station protection systemwide. You can’t — and wouldn’t — be forced out of your station or out of your basic classification.

Every team member covered by the TWU-IAM Association agreement at the time of ratification will continue to have a job at their station.

Buck we know any job protection language is all smoke and mirrors. Useless, feel good language to distract us.

 

[Buck]

Buck we know any job protection language is all smoke and mirrors. Useless, feel good language to distract us.

I just said it was in there, it is upto the individual to determine what that means.

 

[1AA]

Planes sit there because of the flight schedule, just like foreign carriers have planes sitting in cities all across the USA's big airports. Plus in GRU those mechs do a lot of work, go through the logbook sometime of the 777s that spend time there. Mostly cards are getting accomplished and MELs are being removed, not every station operates like DFW where nothing gets accomplished except for the break room geniuses saying what AA should do. There is only so much room at DWH.

DFW should be broken in two, DFW (terminal operation) and DWH (HGR operation) seems like the management from DWH is much better and will be able utilize all that hangar space so much better, DWH should be able to bring all wide body phase checks to DWH, use the hangar space and have shorter logistic lines along with paying less rent then say in JFK etc etc.....and for an added bonus all 300 plus mechs that want to transfer to texas can transfer to texas, where you would have a motivated work force.

Sorry but I disagree on planes sit there anyway. Back in the 90's and after 911 those aircraft did turnarounds. Get in into the morning and leave that same evening.
They would handle inbound items and PS check. Then get it ready to go back to the states. Now there are some scheduled to be there longer and those work cards are done as well as ECO'S and other items that normally don't get touched until it gets back. The intent of keeping them there longer was to accomplish maintenance work that we did in the states. I know this because I went to several schools with the AMT'S from EZE, GRU and SCL. We had conversations about this topic. They were basically doing turnarounds. So the company intentionally scheduled thsee increased ground times and work load.

 

[aintgotnotimefodat]

The latest offer the company has made on JetNet grants Station Protection until you retire for everyone but a few where their stations are subject to closure.

Exactly..but the association wants the job vacancy filled by new hires -same headcount...

 

[B737 driver]

Exactly..but the association wants the job vacancy filled by new hires -same headcount...

Any union would want that, it's how they make money.