Aircraft maint issues

[Slopoke]

Sounds good to me! I would add in the 80 days IOD time to boot.
Here's a question for you....If we did get all of this, would you be willing to give in on the scope?

Not NO, but F*&K NO!! I will not and have not voted yes to anything that gives away anything. Like it's been said, give it away and it's almost impossible to ever get back.

 

[MetalMover]

Not NO, but F*&K NO!! I will not and have not voted yes to anything that gives away anything. Like it's been said, give it away and it's almost impossible to ever get back.

Then don't expect a contract anytime soon. it's all about the scope.
But if history is any indication of the future, one way or another job losses will occur.

 

[Duke787]

Sounds good to me! I would add in the 80 days IOD time to boot.
Here's a question for you....If we did get all of this, would you be willing to give in on the scope?

Not Yes but “F@@@“ yes, we gave in 2003 they took MCI, they took we gave in 2012,they took AFW and TAESL. In 2012 BK, AA could have closed TUL but didn’t LUS could have closed PIT OH abut didn’t. Seems like AA has manning as they want it.

All those goofs that said vote NO in 2010 and send them back into negotiations until we get restore and more. 8 years later we only got what AA decided to give us.

 

[Buck]

I think TULE should be paid 10% more than the Line because when it is cold the heat can be on, but someone always opens a hangar door. Then when it is hot we do not have air-conditioned hangars.

 

[Matt1200]

Union person came into the shop tonight and said the union have given the company our economic and scope proposal and they said the last meeting went well with the company this last week.

 

[SkydrolJunkie]

Union person came into the shop tonight and said the union have given the company our economic and scope proposal and they said the last meeting went well with the company this last week.

Which union is that? The one that ain't too worried about getting an agreement anytime soon!

 

[B737 driver]

Then don't expect a contract anytime soon. it's all about the scope.
But if history is any indication of the future, one way or another job losses will occur.

That's the exact reason we are almost 6 years, pass our amenable date here at SWA, and still stuck in 2012! We almost T/A scope last July, then the union ask for impossible economics. This last session the company moved a little on scope, offered some more on the economics, but not to the liking of the negotiating committee. So who knows when we meet again. Now that SWA has grown up, the economics of contracts get harder, and some people here can't understand that, they only see dollar signs, the company made this much money. If the nut running North Korea ever decides to launch a nuke ; all bets are off.

 

[paul1]

lol

 

[Buck]

That's close to SWA, we are at a 9.3% match this would be better than a pension, if you can get your pension rolled into, your 401k.

How do you determine the value of these Pension's?
How does the company determines the value?

 

[B737 driver]

How do you determine the value of these Pension's?
How does the company determines the value?

You would have to determine what the value is now, at your present age, and years of service, to determine the money value, and then roll that into a 401k, especially if the pension funds are frozen, at least you could control your money from there.

 

[Buck]

You would have to determine what the value is now, at your present age, and years of service, to determine the money value, and then roll that into a 401k, especially if the pension funds are frozen, at least you could control your money from there.

Ok, the company has a calculater in which you can get an estimate of your monthly pension.
In todays calculator mine comes to $2600 per month. No one here knows if they are going to Tax
this payout. If you don't know the future number of years how can you know the amount that the
company will put into this? I used 20 years to get $600000 total payout.

 

[swamt]

It’s looking like since we got the $1000 check because of the tax cut, our profit sharing is going from 3% last year to 2% this year.

And doing the math off top of head, with a little O/T you guys can make 100K, correct? That 1% lower in PS equals, let's see, imagine that, 1,000.00, which is exactly what the bonuses were, hmmmmm...

 

[swamt]

Delta people rose to the challenges of 2017 to produce solid financial results, industry leading operational reliability and strong improvements in customer satisfaction, and it’s an honor to recognize their achievements with $1.1 billion in profit sharing,” said Ed Bastian, Delta’s chief executive officer.

Anyone heard yet what Delta's PS payout to the mechanics are? Enjoy your PS yet again guys...

 

[swamt]

That's the exact reason we are almost 6 years, pass our amenable date here at SWA, and still stuck in 2012! We almost T/A scope last July, then the union ask for impossible economics. This last session the company moved a little on scope, offered some more on the economics, but not to the liking of the negotiating committee. So who knows when we meet again. Now that SWA has grown up, the economics of contracts get harder, and some people here can't understand that, they only see dollar signs, the company made this much money. If the nut running North Korea ever decides to launch a nuke ; all bets are off.

Not sure where you heard the company has moved a little on scope. They have not. You need to read the AMFA updates and emails. I just read an email that the company is still stuck back in 2012 for the scope. They have not moved one iota in scope asks. They did add economics up to 30% signing bonus, and an increase of .8% for the snap up for a total of 14.8% of base. (Of course the company included the increases of lic with their percentages to make it look more like a move to 16.3% for the all in rate). The snap up the company is offering is still not even 3% per for the past 5.5 years, it comes to 2.69% for the past with NO raise on Aug 2018. They did not budge on the 3% thereafter rates, and of course they never moved off of scope, in fact it was never even mentioned in the company's offer after last negotiations. Can you tell us where you heard the company moved???

 

[B737 driver]

Ok, the company has a calculater in which you can get an estimate of your monthly pension.
In todays calculator mine comes to $2600 per month. No one here knows if they are going to Tax
this payout. If you don't know the future number of years how can you know the amount that the
company will put into this? I used 20 years to get $600000 total payout.

Your payout would have to be the money that has been put into your account, so far, with gains and loses, minus fees, that would be your amount you should have right now.