Airbus Arbitration Scheduled

[700UW]

The IAM is about to enter a very risky proceeding where the odds favor the company who has won most grievances from a historical perspective.
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot

Please provide us the facts on this one, since you are not an IAM member, an AGC, GC, Grievance Committeeman, or an IAM shop steward, provide us with facts.

But I won't hold my breath, as most of us know you on these boards and you won't respond because you don't have facts and you know you are wrong!

 

[700UW]

Airbus Subcontracting Arbitration Update

To All District 141-M Members at US Airways:

Dear Sisters and Brothers,

An arbitrator has been chosen and dates have been scheduled to arbitrate US Airways’ outsourcing of IAM members’ work performing heavy maintenance on Airbus aircraft.

The IAM and US Airways have selected arbitrator Richard I. Bloch to hear the case. Hearings are scheduled for April 30, May 3 and May 4, 2004 in Washington, DC.

District 141-M is confident in our case and is preparing evidence to present to the arbitrator. We will seek damages for members adversely affected by the subcontracting of Airbus heavy maintenance, a clear violation of our collective bargaining agreement.

You will be updated of any new developments. Thank you for your continued support.

Sincerely and fraternally,

Scotty Ford
President/Directing General Chairman
IAM District 141-M

 

[700UW]

Just suppose the Company really can't afford the work being done in house and they lose the arbitration and start breaking up the company?

I'm just not seeing a lot of positives here.

If the company can't afford it then why are all the Airbus C-checks done in-house, why are all the Boeings overhauled in-house as well as the A330?

Because the company knows they are wrong on the farmout issue and took a gamble and will lose!

 

[700UW]

Apparently Bob, you have not read that Mr Ford will not have a job come June 1, 2004.

 

[PITbull]

Bob,

Carry that same logic you have about scotty ford and apply it to Dave and Co....

They make out whether we give concessions or not.

So, if as labor, if it is a "lose/lose" proposition....then we go down with a fight!

 

[ktflyhome]

Yea, flyboi, it IS you before me, aren't you happy.? As everyone has posted on here, you would sell us all down the sewer, just to keep your job. Go for it. I can and will fine better things to do. You make me sick. I pitty you, further more....You are disgust me. I am abhorred that you are even a USAirways Flight Attendant...if you are indeed EVEN that. Then if you are, it is ashame that you were hired to begin with. Take my job, we all know you will. Suck it up boi!!!!!! :angry:

 

[PITbull]

Bob,

Granted, whatever loss you infer in your statement above, the people will decide.

Right now, on MId-wonderful-Atlantic, we have mechanicals all over the place with the EM RJ. In SYR today, the flight was 5 hour delay for a mechanical and then went to PHL (same plane) for another 1:30 delay. mechanical again. Guess what?????? Two flight attendants ON BOARD THE PLANE IWTH PASSENGERS AND THEY DON'T GET 1 BLASTED PENNY!!!


Ask me how pissed I am over this??????? Passengers were freely able to go off and on the plane, get their drinks from the f/as AND THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS ON MID-ATLANTIC get no wage or holding pay for any services provided.

I'm just disqusted.

 

[TheLarkAscending]

A320:

Your entire post contains nothing but a series of negative hypotheticals.

Provided the company remains a stand-alone business.......

if US Airways wins.... and ALPA participates.....

there could be devastating consequences.........

The pilots could authorize.....

This could permit the company....Then the company could ....

The B737scould be transferred.....Then the company could enter.........

Then in the next 2.5 years or sooner, the Pittsburgh maintenance facility could be closed........Next the A330, A321, and A320 orders could be used

What does this accomplish?

 

[ktflyhome]

Pitbull, it is just as I stated in another thread. PSA F/A's sit on thier so called OPR for 10 hours and do not get one red cent. This utterly disgusting. No one and I mean no one should come to work and not get paid. :down: :down: :down:

 

[PITbull]

Kt and Bob,

I am so sorry I went off topic.... I will start another thread.


I am so upset with this managment right now I can't even stand myself.

These 50 f/a are so impoverished they are in suites paying $290 PER PERSON a month with 7 in a suite. They are paying Full premium coverage for medical of $340 permonth and their NET pay is a little under $800. Management will not give the f/as medical coverage for 6 months under the contribution plan. Some of the f/as have chronic illnesses and have to have the medical. They have chosen to eat 1 meal a day and maintain medical at the full co. premiums. Their treatement is deplorable and obscene for folks in our professions.

The worst part is the unions are paralized to change anything. The MAA committee is still in negotiations for "flow through" language only, but THEY WILL BRING ALL THIS UP!

Bob,

And this is why mainline can't afford to go to managment's negotiating table. They want to turn mainline into Mid-Atlantic conditions for all of us.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Cav,

If I was the IAM for a day, I would meet with the company and negotiate “Going Forward Planâ€￾ changes and then send the tentative agreement (TA) out to the membership to decide their fate.

What risk is there in this approach?

Moreover, if the TA is ratified then a member can decide whether they can work under the new CBA or not. Regardless, if the TA is unacceptable and ratified, the member would have an income, medical benefits, work mans comp, and travel privilidges versus nothing except unemployment.

However, burning the airline to the ground or losing the arbitration could result in the same end-game…virtually no mechanics and thousands of 40, 50, & 60-year old unemployed people with little options.

Cav, with all due respect, is this Arbitration risk worth it?

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[PITbull]

Cav,


What risk is there in this approach?

Regardless, if the TA is unacceptable and ratified, the member would have an income, medical premiums, work mans comp, and travel privilidges versus nothing except unemployment.

Cav, with all due respect, is this Arbitration risk worth it?

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

USA320,

Yea, you got an option alright.... ratify a T/A and have income that you can't live or pay your bills on..medical premiums you can't afford, Workers comp. the co. will attempt to terminate you if you claim it, and flying priviledges with NO WHERE TO GO CAUSE YOU CAN'T GET ON THE FLIGHTS!

Ok, now what risk is there in this approach you cite??????????????? :angry: No unemployment if you quit.


USA320, with all due respect, Go fly a kite!

 

[aerosmith]

"going forward plan" you truly are living in fantasy land.

 

[delldude]

seems to me that your brother pilots may shoot the going forward plan in the foot.

 

[AP Tech]

Starting wage for the Mid Atlantic mechanics....$11.01hr + $1.00 for each license, equates to about $13.01hr, No medical for the first 30 days and then they pay $300+, no holidays....gee...where do I sign up? Funny thing is when we gave up the first two times, much of the funding went to MA and now when we get furlouged from mainline we have to APPLY to MA? What a deal.....

320..... the writing is on the wall, Boeing are gone in the near future to be replaced with the EMB. Do you HONESTLY beleive this managment would bargin in good faith??? Everything is sent to the arbitrator, the place is an absolute joke anymore. The company stated they had planned to do just 10 Airbus "S" cks in Alabama, then why when you try to order a part there may be 2 in Pit,Clt, Phl,LAX and 100 located at the Mobile facility???

The arbitration is the last chance for survival at U for the mechanics, and I agree if the IAM wins "Dave" being the vendictive child he it will move maintenance to some lovely place. But who really cares anymore!!!!! Most are just sick and tired of all the B****S****. :angry: