AFA Anounces 94% Strike vote But leaves out actual numbers...Why?

[700UW]

The AFA membership voted no, not one person is to blame except the company.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

The AFA membership voted no, not one person is to blame except the company.

CC installed HER JNC to negotiate TA2.

CC "unanimously" supported TA2.

CC failed to deliver CLT even though she "unanimously" supported HER TA2.

Two bases voted YES, one base tied and then there was CLT.

CC is responsible for CLT.

CC failed.

CC is the ONE person most responsible for the "unanimously" supported TA2 failure.

CC is a failure and needs to go.

 

[robbedagain]

is it possible the reason for the f/a turned down 2 contract offers bec maybe they dont have the scope or protection in there in the event of a merger???? i think that is the reason why it was shot down twice. scope is a lot more than money while the pay raises are nice but remember scope protection are most important esp in light of the fact the company is pushing for the merger with aa

 

[ggiby]

There are many, many that do not know what Scope is, Much like Careful, who obviously does not get it. He only looks at the dollar amount that he would be making, and what he has lost in $ since the t/a's have failed. He is not looking to his future job protection. But most must please remember SCOPE is important... now that the the AA possibility looming in our future. But we now have to hope that we go back to the table soon, and stop this nasty behavior on the computer.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

is it possible the reason for the f/a turned down 2 contract offers bec maybe they dont have the scope or protection in there in the event of a merger????

This is more Zombie lack of information, which CC is responsible for.

Scope was IMPROVED but Zombies can't read.

It's ok. Scope does not matter since we will be staying on our current contract because, Zombies can't read.

Welcome to CLT. A land that JUST CAN'T READ.

Amazing that a Zombie brings up something that only takes the ability to READ.

CC has schooled the ignorant well.

CC needs to go.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

There are many, many that do not know what Scope is, Much like Careful, who obviously does not get it. He only looks at the dollar amount that he would be making, and what he has lost in $ since the t/a's have failed. He is not looking to his future job protection. But most must please remember SCOPE is important... now that the the AA possibility looming in our future. But we now have to hope that we go back to the table soon, and stop this nasty behavior on the computer.

Another person who just can't read.

It's truly amazing the the amount of stupidity that some are willing to display on a public message board.

The sheer lack of reading ability or willful disregard of what was in the TA only shows that CC's Zombies can only regurgitate certain "catch phrases" with absolutely no grasp of CC's JNC's TA.

You can't fix stupid.

Let's stay on our current DOUBLE BANKRUPTCY contract forever- it works for me.

Ignore the 49.9% at your peril.

CC needs to go.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

There are many, many that do not know what Scope is,...

What is scope and how was it changed in TA2?

Scope certainly is a MAJOR issue especially for the West but you NO voters are more than happy to throw the West under the bus.

"Solidarity Forever"... or not.

NO voters would happily throw 1/3 of the work force under the bus.

Remember, CC supported TA2 "unanimously"
AND it's scope clause.

Does CC support AFA? No she does not.

Ignore the 49.9% at your peril.

"Solidarity Forever"

CC is THE one most responsible for the failure of her JNC's TA2.

Moron

 

[robbedagain]

apparently the vast majority of the flight attendants dont share with you im telling you if you dont have scope that money dont mean crap. scope is the protection you must have without it your screwed esp in any merger scope is the most important along with everything else but scope is a must have while the money is an improvement i say the 2 t/a were rejected due to the lack of scope protection etc

 

[diamondcutter]

apparently the vast majority of the flight attendants dont share with you im telling you if you dont have scope that money dont mean crap. scope is the protection you must have without it your screwed esp in any merger scope is the most important along with everything else but scope is a must have while the money is an improvement i say the 2 t/a were rejected due to the lack of scope protection etc

Did you read the TA ? There WERE scope protections

 

[robbedagain]

but it was most likely not good enough for the f/as
there is a reason why they shot it down

 

[johnny kat]

The scope language was exactly the same scope language as was in the original contract and for that matter was the same scope language form the contract before that. The scope language was in the East Contract for years. The poor west f/as do not have the scope protection. Although we have a unified seniority list that has not been ratified. The PHX f/as do not have the same scope.

There are tons of details that would have been taken care of in the T/A that was recommended by the leadership the last go round. It is foolish to think that anything not nailed down wont be exploited by management. The f/as have screwed up and had better figure this out before a merger announcement has been made.

I have encountered so many f/as that don't have a clue about the actual language and are just making an opinion based upon what the best friend of a friends attorney husband is saying. I just can't have any sympathy for stupid. The f/as will get what they can figure out based upon their educated 10th grade guess. It is really sad to watch this group. Pitiful Bull and the rest really don't have a clue as to how dumbed down this group has become.

The christmas season is upon us once again, and for the eighth year, everyone is shopping with the same low bankrupt wages as 2004. What kind of gifts can anyone afford and still fly a trip. One day it is slowly, very slowly going to occur to some of our smart well educated f/as that voted no, that they just don't have the same buying power as they did eight years ago. Pitiful! Their mantra is "WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN RAISE" because we are the arrogant stupid idiots.

 

[johnny kat]

And since this is about the strike vote...Everyone please make sure and find the time to show up on the picket line and be ready to CHAOS. It is bad enough we have some f/as that can't read or use a calculator. It does not matter whether you voted yea or nay. We must follow through and do what is legally possible to see this contract issued resolved. No one else will be walking the line for us.

We must take ownership of this issue and forge ahead. To all of those f/as that voted yes on the failed T/As your butts are needed on the picket line just like everyone else.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

is it possible the reason for the f/a turned down 2 contract offers bec maybe they dont have the scope or protection in there in the event of a merger???? i think that is the reason why it was shot down twice.

Really, what is it that you are mumbling about?

With your post you have exposed your complete lack of knowledge regarding TA2
AND what is in our CURRENT contract.

Did you know that pITTbULL gave us PBS?

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

there is a reason why they shot it down

The reason is that some NO voters are unable to read or count.

Is it the $40 million that "those who can't count" say or is it the factual $200 million?

The 49.9% want to know.

$8,000 lost so far as well as scope protection for 1/3 of our F/As.

Let's hear more about scope protection going into another merger.

Morons.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

apparently the vast majority of the flight attendants dont share with you

..."the vast majority"...?

You really are showing your ignorance.

..."vast majority"... really?

Ignore the 49.9% at your peril.

CC needs to go.

MM!