Look up pneumatic tube they are also called vacuum tube.LH had on in their freight house to deliver airway bills
AAL DEBT LOAD-Debt to Equity Ratio
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WeAAsles
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When do they start digging the tunnel?
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If someone isn’t claustrophobic before they ride in that thing they’re going to be after they get out. I can hear the screaming now.
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Rusty left out one very important point and all these fancy numbers don’t address it: These Corksoakers running American have nothing to lose by buying up stock, running up the debt, and cashing out in a few years. But they have everything to gain. But then again neither do the Corksoakers running the competition.
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Actually I think the BOD who represent the actual owners of the Airline would have something to say if they were purposely trying to run it into the ground.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/about-us/corporate-governance.jsp
Weez that site is called Motley Fool for a reason. It’s a bunch of people who write articles for clicks. People who truly have the pulse of the industry don’t publish their content for free.
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isnt AA still going to make around 2 billion this year?
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Who knows how much profit yet. They’re only in the second quarter. But I don’t see any losing quarters coming up IMO.
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You would think so. But if that were the case we wouldn’t have countless corporate bankruptcies and golden parachutes with no accountability. I just don’t trust corporate America.
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i toss bags for a formerly bk airline, that's all . i've played the market a bit, mostly trading (never day-traded) and options. one has to separate a company's stock from the company itself..many great companies with dog stocks (usually too bloated/too many shares outstanding) and some sketchy companies with high flying stock as traders dream of $14/share earnings off 50 million shares outstanding.
i only stated my belief in what our execs have envisioned, with the blessing of the board of directors. the company IPOed with nearly 760 million shares and now we've shaved off just about 300 million shares. unbelievable.
dl is valued (market cap = share price x number of shares outstanding) at almost double aa, which is ridiculous. give aa the same amount of time dl & nw had to get the most of synergies, new revenue initiatives, younger, more fuel efficient fleet, more baggage fees (premium economy is charged now) and more credit card money. fares will go up and if oil does go down a bit, aa may keep the higher fares.
ua is around $70 for a reason and it's not because wall street believes it's the best run and best positioned airline. look at how many shares ua has outstanding and some are taking a risk that ua can't get any worse. eventually, ua will pay a decent dividend as it makes more and more money. that's the thinking, but looking at ua's market cap, not too many takers.
bottom line for aa, it needs to beef up the dividend.
other posters have given good reasons why i don't agree with another BK premise and i've made fun of jamie baker of jp morgan and his personal love affair with delta. i've said in the past, that delta gets free airplanes...because jamie only talks about aa's debt. it's equity..we spent it/spending it on assets, not on losing lottery tickets.
so, what will jamie say about delta's debt?
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By the time Chapter 11 or downsizing happens the MD80 Fleet will be retired and THE B-757 / B-767 will be much smaller in size which means there won't be many OLD airplanes to park. I guess AA could park some of the older B-737's in a bind.
2021 seems to be a major milestone for AA from a financial standpoint according to several different Wall Street sources.
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2 billion is not so good if you have 3 billion due in debt and pension obligations in the next 18 months.
I'll help them out on the debt.
I'll give up my 2% profit sharing.
That should pay off the balance of the companies debt.
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what happened to roger staubach? if he's not on the board, yes, we will file for BK again.
