AA pilots and pat-downs

[Joe Patroni]

I'm an employee..Why would I be stopped and searched if I use my PA/Customs ID to swipe throught the doors?

It doesn't matter. I have seen TSA camp out at the door and search everyone going through.

 

[787nightmare]

When I worked for World...I saw the military personnel you speak of Frank getting asked to take off there belts, shoes, etc...
I could not believe my eyes. Everytime I travel I get homicidal over the "knee jerk" BS! we Americans are subject to...all in the name of so called "airport security".
The TSA is just another bloated arm of Fedzilla(thanks Ted Nugent).

They will scrutinize everybody except the ones that actually want to do us harm. Thanks to the PC agenda of the A-C-L-U!!!!
We need to adopt Israels security model.
I better stop now.... :angry:

 

[Bob Owens]

When I worked for World...I saw the military personnel you speak of Frank getting asked to take off there belts, shoes, etc...
I could not believe my eyes. Everytime I travel I get homicidal over the "knee jerk" BS! we Americans are subject to...all in the name of so called "airport security".
The TSA is just another bloated arm of Fedzilla(thanks Ted Nugent).

They will scrutinize everybody except the ones that actually want to do us harm. Thanks to the PC agenda of the A-C-L-U!!!!
We need to adopt Israels security model.
I better stop now.... :angry:

And who are the ones who want to do us harm? The ones who look they are from the mideast or the ones who look like Timothy McVeigh?



The ACLU is against body scanners.
www.aclu.org/.../aclu-backgrounder-body-scanners-and-“virtual-strip- searches


The problem is that the TSA are primarily low paid and not very extensively trained, to make up for the lack of training they follow a blanket set of rules that eliminate judgement and common sense.

 

[PhatSappy]

Probably the funniest story I'd heard for a while was re: a charter flight for a group of USMC soldiers - they had to go through a security check per the TSA and after having to toss their nail clippers and other such "weapons" were allowed to board carrying their M16s and other gear.

Only in America ...

Happy Birthday Marines! (Nov 10th)

 

[telebender1956]

And who are the ones who want to do us harm? The ones who look they are from the mideast or the ones who look like Timothy McVeigh?



The ACLU is against body scanners.
www.aclu.org/.../aclu-backgrounder-body-scanners-and-“virtual-strip- searches


The problem is that the TSA are primarily low paid and not very extensively trained, to make up for the lack of training they follow a blanket set of rules that eliminate judgement and common sense.

The ones from the Middle east use airplanes and not Tim McVeigh. Tim McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and a person from the Middle East blew up the OKC Federal Building. Read the book" The Third Terrorist " by Jayna Davis and you would know these things instead of believing the brain-dead News Media and our CORRUPT Federal Government who is very good at cover-ups and has a long history of doing so.

 

[telebender1956]

Here is just one of many more examples of the TSA overstepping its powers. I hope more passengers start to revolt and refuse this kind of treatment at the checkpoints.

My link

 

[777flyer]

I agree.

I hope the AA and US Air pilots are successful in taking on the TSA. I hope their Unions sue the TSA over the radiation body scanners [virtual naked strip search] and are successful in court of getting the Full Body Scanners removed from airports. This is just another example of the Feds overstepping their powers and it needs to be stopped ASAP.

My link

 

[787nightmare]

And who are the ones who want to do us harm? The ones who look they are from the mideast or the ones who look like Timothy McVeigh?



The ACLU is against body scanners.
www.aclu.org/.../aclu-backgrounder-body-scanners-and-“virtual-strip- searches


The problem is that the TSA are primarily low paid and not very extensively trained, to make up for the lack of training they follow a blanket set of rules that eliminate judgement and common sense.

Bob, I think you and everybody else on this forum know who the real threats, day in/day out are from and what geographical area they originate from.
If I need to help you with that...well, nevermind-I know you're not that ignorant. And they are plotting as I type this...c'mon give me a break.
And the TSA "agents" are nothing more than pawns in the federal govts scheme to make us all "feel" safer. And I detest even seeing "ACLU"...

 

[ZundappBella]

No, what's funny about this is that if a pilot wants to bring down the airplane, there's nothing that screening is going to do to prevent it. It's not like they have a giant axe at their disposal or the ability to nosedive the airplane like the EgyptAir pilot did...

While I'm not defending the porn scanners or pat downs, I think the reason for requiring flight crews to go through security is because it isn't to difficult to obtain a uniform and badge if you want to take down a plane. Buy a ticket the day before, stick it in the pocket of your uniform and go through with your fake badge. Change clothes in the bathroom and board the plane with your weapon. Having a fingerprint or iris scanner with previously cleared employees info on the network wouldn't be too hard to implement. I think they were going to do that with frequent fliers, but I haven't seen one yet.

 

[telebender1956]

While I'm not defending the porn scanners or pat downs, I think the reason for requiring flight crews to go through security is because it isn't to difficult to obtain a uniform and badge if you want to take down a plane. Buy a ticket the day before, stick it in the pocket of your uniform and go through with your fake badge. Change clothes in the bathroom and board the plane with your weapon. Having a fingerprint or iris scanner with previously cleared employees info on the network wouldn't be too hard to implement. I think they were going to do that with frequent fliers, but I haven't seen one yet.

How about using a retina scanner to ID the flight crew member? No mistakes here and they have been successfully used for years in highly secured areas.

 

[Skymess]

I'm an employee..Why would I be stopped and searched if I use my PA/Customs ID to swipe throught the doors?

This post highlights the exact reason all of the FAs and Pilots are irritated that WE have to go through security and WE are the ones flying on the planes.

 

[MCI transplant]

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[Hopeful]

This post highlights the exact reason all of the FAs and Pilots are irritated that WE have to go through security and WE are the ones flying on the planes.

I agree. We go throught all the necessary and screening and background checsks for employment. And for us, we go throught it annualy for badge renewal. As for flight crews going throught the whole nine yards of security checkpoints, this I believe is more for show than necessity. Gives the flying public that feel good feeling.

 

[nbmcg01]

And who are the ones who want to do us harm? The ones who look they are from the mideast or the ones who look like Timothy McVeigh?



The ACLU is against body scanners.
www.aclu.org/.../aclu-backgrounder-body-scanners-and-“virtual-strip- searches


The problem is that the TSA are primarily low paid and not very extensively trained, to make up for the lack of training they follow a blanket set of rules that eliminate judgement and common sense.

You might be very surprised how much the TSA workers are paid. It takes almost a year to be hired and the backgrund checks and physicals are far more extensive than for flight crew.

 

[Skymess]

You might be very surprised how much the TSA workers are paid. It takes almost a year to be hired and the backgrund checks and physicals are far more extensive than for flight crew.

I don't doubt their training. I sometimes doubt their individual judgement on acceptable behavior. Kind of the same way I do for everyone.
I'm going to be getting patted down a lot in the next few months/years. I'd rather do that than deal with an exponential amount of unnecessary radiation on the ground when I am already facing countless hours of exposure due to my career choice.