AA management moves into TWU Top spot

[TWU informer]

Why do I get the feeling that HSS is a COMMUNIST? How dare Bob Owens question the TWU "leadership". The TWU "leadership" can never be wrong. Repent your blasphemy Bob and bow to Jim Little NOW!

I am afraid he isn't even smart enough for Commies to take him in.

He is much closer to being Airline Management than a Communist.

 

[scorpion]

Hi ken, What point exactly did you say bob was trying to make? How long have you worked for AA? How long have you been represented by the BA? You know, the TWU. Have you ever heard of the Constituntional Convention? It is a gathering of elected individuals from within the bargaining unit. They take forward the agenda of the represented body of the membership. You know, the majority! They who carry the voice of the membership to this convention. You should really educate yourself before spewing rhetoric about a topic you apparentley know little about. Join a real union you will be alot happier 😉

This may help......See below
He was then elected to a full four year term to that post by TWU's 22nd Constitutional Convention in September 2005.

So your saying elected officials at the state level should be the only ones to vote on president and vice president of the US and whoever they elected would be the voice of the people?

 

[Bob Owens]

So your saying elected officials at the state level should be the only ones to vote on president and vice president of the US and whoever they elected would be the voice of the people?

You also have to add in that those State Officials serve at the whim of the President who can levy charges aaginst them then appoint the judge and jury who will do the convicting.Just like the Stalin and Saddam Hussain.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Jimmy now loses his degree on Intl website....

James Little

The International Executive Council unanimously elected James Little TWU's International Executive Vice President September 21, 2004. He was then elected to a full four-year term to that post by TWU's 22nd Constitutional Convention in September 2005. Jim, who also serves as TWU's Air Transport Division Director, has a strong technical background and has extensive experience in negotiations, arbitrations, and organizing.

Jim has been serving TWU in numerous capacities for more than nearly three decades, including: TWU Local 540 Section Chairman for three years; President of TWU Local 542--Aircraft Dispatchers & Meteorologists--for 12 years; TWU International Representative for 7 years, and Air Transport Division and TWU International Administrative Vice President since 2001.

He became a member of TWU in 1971 after hiring on in Fleet Service for American Airlines after service to the nation as an AMT and Crew Chief for the U.S. Air Force's Strategic Air Command.

As Air Transport Director, Jim oversees 44 ATD Local affiliates, 11 Government Service contracts, and 31 Airline Contracts.

Prior to American, he worked as an Overhaul Mechanic for Central Aviation Inc. and for Pan Am World Services as an Instructor. He holds an Aircraft Dispatcher Certificate and a NYS Teachers Certificate.

 

[Bob Owens]

Jimmy now loses his degree on Intl website....

I wonder if he used his "degree" to get his NY Teachers liscence? Oh yea he changed that too, now he has a certificate.


I wonder if his position as an Instructor at Pan Am World Services was union or management? Was the Instructor position (held at least 30 years ago) what he used to get his NYS Teachers certificate?


Was Central Aviation a union shop?

http://www.centralaviation.ca/
There must have been another Central Aviation Inc.

Boy, the more we dig the shorter his Bio gets!

Anybody have any contacts in the SAC so we can find out what Little actually did there? Will we find more lies?

What happened to HSS???

The typical TWU move is to deny that it ever said anything about degrees!!!

My guess is that they will try to squeeze some sort of a degree out of the University of Maryland via the AFL-CIOs Meany Institute to save face and claim that he was "working towards those degrees which were enterred prematurely on the Bio without Little's knowledge", but then again we have the transcripts from the deposition,,,

 

[AMFAMAN]

Well thanks to Google cache, we forever have Jimmy's fraud filled bio....


http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:HWdJt...us&ct=clnk&cd=1]Jimmy's BS BIO://http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cach...my's BS BIO://http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cach...my's BS BIO://http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cach...my's BS BIO

James Little was unanimously elected TWU's International Executive Vice President September 21, 2004 by the International Executive Council. He was then elected to a full four year term to that post by TWU's 22nd Constitutional Convention in September 2005. Jim, who also serves as TWU's Air Transport Division Director, has a strong technical background and has extensive experience in negotiations, arbitrations, and organizing.

Jim has been serving TWU in numerous capacities for more than nearly three decades, including: TWU Local 540 Section Chairman for three years; President of TWU Local 542--Aircraft Dispatchers & Meteorologists--for 12 years; TWU International Representative for 7 years, and Air Transport Division and TWU International Administrative Vice President since 2001.

He became a member of TWU in 1971 after hiring on in Fleet Service for American Airlines after service to the nation as an AMT and Crew Chief for the U.S. Air Force's Strategic Air Command.

As Air Transport Director, Jim oversees 44 ATD Local affiliates, 11 Government Service contracts, and 31 Airline Contracts.

He holds BA in Aeronautics, an MS in Aviation Technology, a New York State Teacher's License, and an FAA Aircraft Dispatcher certificate.
Prior to American, he worked as an Overhaul Mechanic for Central Aviation Inc. and for Pan Am World Services as an Instructor.

Smile Jimmy

 

[Bob Owens]

Well thanks to Google cache, we forever have Jimmy's fraud filled bio....

Beautiful!

 

[Hackman]

Do-little ain't got no book learnin? He ain't got no BS degree? No Master's in BS'n either? Well, he's got that....

Damn it Jim!!!!!

Wooohooo!!!! Jimmy, you made my week!!!!!

 

[The Goose]

Those of us who keep up with industry news rather than letting someone else say what's good and bad for us know all too well the side effects that go along with your brand of "democracy".

Being obviously pro-scamfa, have another snort of Kool-Aid.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Those of us who keep up with industry news rather than letting someone else say what's good and bad for us know all too well the side effects that go along with your brand of "democracy".

Being obviously pro-scamfa, have another snort of Kool-Aid.

And exactly what does AMFA have to do with Jim Little's documented management background and fraud filled education.

Are you saying that you prefer manAAgement to pick your union officials over the membership?

 

[Wretched Wrench]

Those of us who keep up with industry news rather than letting someone else say what's good and bad for us know all too well the side effects that go along with your brand of "democracy".

Being obviously pro-scamfa, have another snort of Kool-Aid.

What??????

Go home.

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[Bob Owens]

That was cute bob... It is remarkable what level of clevernous you have achieved. Oh well, Back to your rhetoric. You claim the oath of office is flawed, and does not facilitate the best interest of the members. That is your opinion, being that now you choose to try to wield it as a weapon....

That is fact. Where are the members interests mentioned? They are not.

I would assume that when you hired at AA that you took an oath as a member of the TWU at a swearing in ceremony. This oath had a level of responsibility required to be accepted as a member of the TWU.

Acceptance to the TWU is a moot point, the fact is I was hired by the company, so once the company hired me I was automatically a member of the TWU. The fact is the TWU could not refuse membership to me and I was never sworn in as a member. Nobody that I know of was either.

So the company determines who will be members of the TWU, not the TWU. I guess that since the TWU is a company union its only fitting that the company determines who will be members.

Since you brought up the issue of responsibility of members, which the Constitution cites repeatedly, could you enlighten us as to what the responsibility of the International is towards the members?

Then later in your career you were elected in to a position of leadership in the TWU which as well had an oath of office, which is a greater level of responsibility.

Yes, and I did. However there was disagreement between the International and myself as to the interpretation of the Oath. According to the International I should be willing to screw over my members and violate Article II in order to preserve illegal payments from Aa to TWU officers. Would you like me to quote the "Findings" again where the International said that if I put my members interests ahead of the Internationals interests I'm violating my oath?

You then elected to play "a game of pool" with your oath of office and your new found level of responsibility. Your own irresponsibility with your new found level of responsibility led you in a direction that caused you to be defeated, because the TWU knocked in the 8 ball.

Oh really? Do you have any specifics? I dont recall playing any games, I do recall calling for the removal of Little, Yingst and Gless, which is protected speech under the LMRDA. I do recall taking part in a lawsuit suing the International for imposing the most concessionary contracts in history upon my members. I do recall writing the ad that we put in the Tulsa World urging our brothers and sisters of Local 514 to reject the concessions. If we had the money we would have done the same in MCI. I do recall fighting for my members which is what they elected me to do. But I do not recall playing some sort of pool game.

You have already failed one oath, don't fail the other

Oh really? And which Oath did I fail?

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

Those of us who keep up with industry news rather than letting someone else say what's good and bad for us know all too well the side effects that go along with your brand of "democracy".

Being obviously pro-scamfa, have another snort of Kool-Aid.

Keeping up with industry news requires being able to read/hear information and understanding which is true and false. Your "pro-scamfa" comment indicates that you are not able to do either. Much like a "newbie" bird you sit in your nest with your mouth wide open just waiting for anything that is given to you.

As far as democracy goes, you demonstrate my point once again.

Democracy is where ELECTED officials are VOTED on by the members this official wishes to represent. If there is more than one official running for the same position then the individual with the most votes wins. Votes of dead people do not count. 🙂

Now, in the twu, at the Local level this is true. My Stewards, E-Board, Vice-Chairmen, Chairmen, Presidents, Recording Secretary are ELECTED by their membership.

However, in the twu international this is not the case. Please show me the proof where I, or any other twu member in the atd, received a ballot to vote for or against Gary Yingst, Bob Gless or Dennis Burchette before he "left" the international.

Until you can show these ballots you will remain nothing but a featherless, flightless, misinformed bird of unknown origin. 😛h34r: 😛h34r:

 

[Wretched Wrench]

Pardon me if I missed it, but exactly what position in management did Little occupy at what time?

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[eolesen]

I think he might have been a supervisor or workload planner at one point.

So what? There are hundreds of employees at AMR who may have been a supervisor at one point in their career but fell back into a front line position. Some were downgraded because they were incompetent, some were because of management RIF's and were allowed to downgrade into a vacancy that they were qualified for. Most of the people I know who returned to the front line chose to downgrade because they found being a supervisor to be absolutely thankless OR because it offered very little flexibility for their personal lives (little or no opportunity for CS'ing when necessary).

But, because it makes a great soundbyte for the folks upset with the TWU, why he left the position is entirely irrelevant.